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Insight magazine ^ | November 9, 2001 | Kelly Patricia O’Meara

Posted on 11/12/2001 12:09:08 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen

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To: error99
GOVERNMENT TERRORISM - From Ruby Ridge To Waco And Beyond


41 posted on 01/06/2003 2:56:20 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
The Republic is dead. - Long live the Republic.

The question is...
What, if anything, are any of us going to do about it?
Other than typing on these keyboards and "mitching and boning" about it to one another. Is there nothing constructive to be done? Or do we just sit back and watch whats left of it fall down around our feet?
All of this, for the most part, is just preaching to the choir.
42 posted on 01/06/2003 3:03:23 AM PST by error99
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To: Stand Watch Listen
http://www.darpa.mil/iao/EARS.htm

Program Objective:

The Effective Affordable Reusable Speech-To-Text (EARS) program is developing speech-to-text (automatic transcription) technology whose output is substantially richer and much more accurate than currently possible. This will make it possible for machines to do a much better job of detecting, extracting , summarizing, and translating important information. It will also enable humans to understand what was said by reading transcripts instead of listening to audio signals.

Program Strategy:

EARS is focusing on natural, unconstrained human-human speech from broadcasts and telephone conversations in multiple languages. The intent is to create core enabling technology suitable for a wide range of advanced applications.

EARS encompasses wide-ranging, multidisciplinary research; quantitative evaluations of algorithm accuracy and utility; and efficient technology demonstration prototypes. Outside groups are invited to participate in the annual Rich Transcription evaluations run by NIST.

NOW MY QUESTION IS: How would a Warrent even be issued?

43 posted on 01/06/2003 3:03:50 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Uncle Bill
This article implies that only three lawmakers refused to vote for this...sight unseen. Is that true?

IF true, is there a way to get the listing of those who DID vote for it?

I must be REALLY 'old and senile', cuz I 'think' I can remember that if it was klintler who wanted to try this commie crap, there used to be a place called FR that would sound the alarm.

Well, gotta go find my rockin'chair, cane, and depends, I reckon.

44 posted on 01/06/2003 3:11:36 AM PST by mommadooo3
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To: mommadooo3
It's an GOPer so it's OK if GWB does it! A lot of the posters on FR have different definitions of wrong depending on which side does it.

Wrong is no longer Wrong.
45 posted on 01/06/2003 6:51:56 AM PST by Karsus
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To: Karsus
Please excuse the errors, it has been a long night. :->
46 posted on 01/06/2003 6:57:00 AM PST by Karsus
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To: All
"WHAT IS A PATRIOT"

PATRIOTS are not "Revolutionaries" trying to overthrow the government of the United States.

PATRIOTS are "Counter-Revolutionaries" trying to prevent the government of the United States from overthrowing the Constitution of the United States. - Unknown Author

What brings the PATRIOTS out of the woodwork?

When the constitutional process, the system of checks and balances set up by the Founders, has not just been thrown out of kilter, it has been thrown out the window. These socialist maneuvers are what attracts PATRIOTS to the streets of America.

47 posted on 01/06/2003 7:42:28 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: mommadooo3
Lawmakers could not get a copy to read, then they voted for it sight unseen because it was promised that the law would sunshine in four years, each congressman wanted to look like they were doing something. They were lied to. Why the lie?

Given the situation with terrorists and the fact that the government has zero intention of doing one thing about any kind of immigration from anywhere, a majority of people most likely thought that this wouldn't be the first time in our histroy that we stepped on civil rights to ensure the safety and survival of the USofA. So no one is making, or has made a fuss.

Having been assured that the law sunshines in four years everyone felt pretty comfortable allowing the FBI to easedrop on terrorist across state lines, and international borders, read their email, etc. In four years that ability would vanish and we would have nabbed the bad guys who do not deserve to be able to hide behind our protections. But the Bush administration lied, the worse parts of this bill never sunshine. That is the issue I have objections to, and that to this very day, we don't know what worse things are in this bill.

Not only that but let's put all of Bush's litte bits and pieces together to form a picture. Here you have a man that knows he has no intention of doing one workable thing, like stopping immigration from terrorist nations. So it's easy to paint him as just some politician tap dancing for the public as if the things he has put forward actually accomplishes anything. But when you put all these bits and pieces together it spells totalitarian globalist.

The Patriot Act, named that so that responsible representatives like Ron Paul could be accused of being un-patriot for not voting for it. He was the only congressman that acted responsibly. The Patriot Act is anything but Patriotic.

TIPS, your cable man is watching you, so is your mail man, and the trucker you just passed. Isn't this a bit of an over reaction on Bush's part, subject to abuse? Before you say no, keep in mind that the Maryland police are going to go door to door to check out all the tips they received during the sniper investigation in D.C. to search individuals for illegal guns. We should be kissing Dick Armey's feet for blocking this one. He has been scared right into the arms of the ACLU as a consultant because of the worries he has, along with Bob Barr.

Let's don't forget the FBI confiscating "legally owned" weapons with the false promise of their return.

Don't tell me that something isn't going on when Armey and Graham both leave office on the crest of a Republican wave at the same time in the same year. I would love to know that story. But that is another subject, maybe.

Now the Pentagon wants to keep a data base on everyone, that would be e v e r y o n e. Now why is that? Why does the Pentagon need to know anything about civilians? Is it because the posse comutatus law is going to be changed to that extent?

Homeland security, the very name should send shivers up your back, commrade. It is projected to cost 32 billion in seven years or so, to consolidate 22 useless, disfunctional agencies into one large disfunctional agency and not one person in government, or out, can tell you how it is suppose to function and what it's goals are. All we do know is that the two agencies that have proven beyond doubt to need oversight, the FBI and the CIA will not be included in it.

This is the largest overhaul of government ever, and placed in the hands of Tom Ridge, making him one of the most powerful figgures in government. Who is Tom Ridge? Someone playing his hand very close to the cuff about what he is putting together. Shouldn't he have some type of oversight by the congress, since he is changing government to a huge extent? It is a sad state of affairs when congress is afraid to challange a popular President for fear of retaliation on the part of an unwatchful adoring public.

The mindset of Americans has certainly changed when they are willing to accept the premise of being guilty until they can prove they are innocent. The WOD that assumes guilt until the citizen can prove he is innocent, the IRS's "Know Your Customer" that they were forced to drop, only to be picked up by the DEA, requiring your bank report you for any unusual activity in your account. And the horrifying specter of grandma's being searched at the airports while arabs are waved through.

Several times pre 9-11 I made the comment that we would not recognize the USofA in five years, I was wrong, it only took one year. Will government abuse it's powers?

The WOD has only produced a few hundred abuses suffered by Americans at the hands of local speed trap towns where the police dept has increased it's revenue by confiscating the car and cash of innocent Americans, who never get their property back even when the court rules in their favor.

The infamous BATF has only killed a few dozen innocent people as well as the FBI. But now every agency in D.C. wants it's own swat type enforcement branch, such as the EPA. What do they need with a swat team? Are they going to take down polluters? Drop some guy for tossing a cigg out his side window? What the heck does the EPA need with a swat team, or the Forest Dept? Is the Forest Dept going to take down some hunter that bagged over 15 quail? Interesting times and no one seems to notice much and if they do, Lord help them if they get nervous and light up in public.=o)
48 posted on 01/06/2003 7:48:28 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Karsus
Some folks just want to continue to believe that the man they chose, the one they adore cannot do wrong. Maybe they will see the truth someday, but don't count on them.
49 posted on 01/06/2003 7:49:40 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: MissAmericanPie
I'll probably sound like one of 'those' Bush bashers, but I keep wondering how much Bush DID know or SUSPECT @ 9.11.01. (I admit, I'm not up to speed anymore 'cuz I've been off-line for months, and haven't had much time to sit long enough to catch up.) But it seems that maybe he knew SOMETHING but 'did a klintler' so that he could pull this crap he's implementing. It's all so bizzare it makes NO sense.

I no longer feel 'right' for having supported/voted for Bush. I should've voted for a FReeper. (Jim Robinson would've been a GOOD one...LOL, I think)

50 posted on 01/07/2003 3:48:11 AM PST by mommadooo3
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To: Uncle Bill
Al Qaeda: Errors In Judgement

Tuesday, 7th of January at 8.30pm

"The left hand did not know what the right was doing." So says the ex-Director of the CIA, James Woolsey, when asked about the state of affairs at the US Secret Service prior to 11 September 2001.

Robert Baer, an agent specialising in the Middle and the Far East with 21 years of experience under his belt and who is, according to The New Yorker, "by far the best CIA agent ever," goes further. "A professional service could have prevented the attack of September 11. We could have caught these people beforehand."

And yet the failure was not merely that of the CIA and the FBI, but also of the Clinton administration. Many times in the years prior to the attack, the Sudanese government offered the USA precise documentation on the Al Qaeda network. This German documentary claims that Clinton’s administration, however, was not interested in the highly explosive material, because they objected, in principle, to the political situation in the Sudan.

Yet, even after the bombings of the US embassies in Africa, the FBI, the program, maintains, once more refused a Sudanese offer to hand over two of the main suspects. This documentary exposes how Saudi Arabia has been financing the fundamentalists for years.

AL QAEDA: ERRORS IN JUDGEMENT, screening on SBS on Tuesday, January 7 @ 8.30 pm, catalogues the extraordinary deficiencies in US intelligence gathering that resulted in valuable information about Al Qaeda being ignored.

The former head of the Taliban’s secret service met with CIA representatives in April of 1999 in Peshawar, to talk about "the problem with Osama". Elements of the Taliban leadership were considering exiling Bin Laden and Al Qaeda from Afghanistan. Bin Laden’s influence was too great for them and they feared American reprisals for Osama’s attacks abroad.

But, the program believes that the verdict is clear: US agents and the Clinton administration broke the golden rule, which states that one should check out all information, even that received from political opponents. If they had, then September 11 and the deaths of thousands of people could have been avoided.

51 posted on 01/07/2003 3:57:07 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: MissAmericanPie
..will government abuse it's powers?..

Aussie tourist falls foul of US visa laws
By Vanessa Wilson
January 7 2003

The Department of Foreign Affairs (DFAT) will send a diplomat from Washington to Texas later today to visit 20-year-old Australian citizen Megan Stapleton, detained in a prison for breaching her travel visa by two days.

Megan's mother, Mrs Antoinette Stapleton, has had no contact with her daughter since her arrest in Austin, Texas 12 days ago.

A DFAT spokeswoman confirmed that Miss Stapleton is being held in a dormitory cell inside the 337-bed Cormal County Jail but could not comment further on her physical and mental condition.

The US Consulate in Sydney has refused to comment on the case.

Megan Stapleton travelled to the United States under a visa waiver program which allowed her to stay in the country for 90 days.

According to the Stapleton's Australian lawyer, Mr Ben Slade, Megan decided to travel to Mexico within that period.

On her return to the US and she was allowed by border immigration officials to re-enter the country for a further days 30 days.

Two weeks later she spoke to her mother and told her she would be home in time for her 21st birthday on January 26, as well as a knee reconstruction operation.

She voluntarily attended the US Immigration and Naturalisation Service office in response to a query about her visa where she was immediately placed into custody.

"The condition of the 90 day waiver is that the person must waive any right to review or appeal an immigration officer's decision as to either admissibility or removal," Mr Slade explained. "You are not consenting to arbitrary detention in a jail."

Mr Slade and Mrs Stapleton were interviewed by a US consular official for 20 minutes after holding a media conference in Martin Place today.

Mr Slade said the officer was: "concerned and polite but didn't make any any promises to improve the situation".

According to the DFAT spokeswoman, delays in processing Miss Stapleton's deportation were due to the Christmas/New Year holiday period.

"The US takes a dim view on immigration breaches, especially since September 11," the spokeswoman said. "In circumstances like this there is a limit to what consular officials can do, she said. "The matter in now in the hands of the US authorities.

Miss Stapleton is expected to remain in custody for 3 to 4 weeks while the deportation process continues.

52 posted on 01/07/2003 4:04:49 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Great report----for more info, see www.jbs.org and www.thenewamerican.com
53 posted on 01/07/2003 4:28:30 AM PST by RamRoss
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To: Stand Watch Listen
POLICE STATE REQUIRES LOTS OF CAPS & SEMI-LITERATE PUNCTUATION
54 posted on 01/07/2003 4:30:44 AM PST by BlueLancer
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