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Bush: Don't Federalize Air Screeners
Associated Press ^ | October 27, 2001 | By SCOTT LINDLAW, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 10/27/2001 9:03:57 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP

Saturday October 27 11:32 AM ET

Bush: Don't Federalize Air Screeners

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By SCOTT LINDLAW, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush (news - web sites) asked Congress on Saturday to reject a proposal that would make all passenger and baggage screeners federal employees. He suggested indirectly that such a move could make it more difficult for managers to fire delinquent workers.

In his weekly radio address, Bush renewed his call for placing the government in charge of overseeing, but not employing, airport security workers - an approach embraced in a House bill that will likely face a vote next week. A Senate bill ``federalizing'' the security work force passed, 100-0, on Oct. 11.

``My approach gives the government the flexibility it needs to assemble a skilled and disciplined screening work force,'' Bush said.

He said the Senate bill was ``well-intended,'' but the House legislation is ``the quickest, most effective way to increase aviation security.''

It would ensure that ``security managers can move aggressively to discipline or fire employees who fail to live up to the rigorous new standards,'' he said.

The president's remarks echoed comments Thursday by his press secretary, Ari Fleischer (news - web sites), who questioned whether government employees could be disciplined if they failed to do their jobs.

``If somebody joins the federal civil service, it's often impossible to take any discipline action in a prompt fashion,'' Fleischer said.

The bill pushed by House Republicans would create a Transportation Security Administration within the Transportation Department responsible for security of all modes of transportation. It increases the number of air marshals on flights, takes steps to strengthen cockpit doors, requires law enforcement personnel at each screening location in airports, and imposes a passenger fee of up to $2.50 per flight to pay for new security measures.

The Senate bill and legislation introduced by House Democrats contain many of the same provisions. But the Senate bill would make all 28,000 airport screeners federal workers, allowing smaller airports to use local or state law enforcement officials.

Bush had his national security briefing at Camp David on Saturday morning, with Chief of Staff Andrew Card and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites), among others.

The president planned to watch the opening game of the World Series on Saturday night.

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The House Republican bill is H.R. 3150.

The Senate bill is S. 1447.

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1 posted on 10/27/2001 9:03:57 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Mega-bump!
2 posted on 10/27/2001 9:05:26 AM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: MeeknMing
Mega-bump!
3 posted on 10/27/2001 9:05:27 AM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: MeeknMing
President Bush is RIGHT! But will he win? We need to Call Congress (local offices are still open) and let them know - follow President Bush's recommendation - NOT THE SENATE VERSION - but get it done now!
4 posted on 10/27/2001 9:06:44 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Hey no kidding. If anyone thinks they want the security workers federalized, you need only point them to the US Post office. Is this what we want our airport security to replicate? I think not.
5 posted on 10/27/2001 9:21:15 AM PDT by Wphile
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
I don't think we will win. Bush blew it (big time) on this one by not stating his position clearly while the Senate was debating this. As a result, the Senate votes unanimously for this - that is 49 Republicans (as least I think it was unanimous). W and the House don't have much to stand on with a vote like that. W was too late on this one and missed the opportunity. Snooze you lose. Chalk this one up to mismanagement on Bush's part and his ridiculous desire for bi-partisanship on everything.
6 posted on 10/27/2001 9:24:49 AM PDT by Wphile
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To: MeeknMing
. He suggested indirectly that such a move could make it more difficult for managers to fire delinquent workers.

That is the problem with elections. They have fixed the laws where the officials use our taxes to re enforce their entrenchment.

7 posted on 10/27/2001 9:35:08 AM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: Wphile
Ah yes, the Post Office... a FINE example of federally-sanctioned sub-mediocrity.
Along with the Veterans Administration
Federal Housing Administration
Dept. of Education
Bureau of Indian Affairs
And COUNTLESS other bureaucratic nightmares!
8 posted on 10/27/2001 9:40:54 AM PDT by TheGrimReaper
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To: MeeknMing
hey, dascHOLE, how ya gonna pay for it?
airline bailout
federlizing airport security
insurance co.'s bailout
forgiving 3rd world debt
new "aid" to any one that "says" they'll support us
new "homeland security czar" n all that goes with him

this list could get real "serious", money wise, so;
hey, dascHOLE, how ya gonna pay for it?

9 posted on 10/27/2001 9:45:25 AM PDT by hoot2
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To: MeeknMing
I have seen plenty of posts noting the poor quality of low-paid, poorly trained and motivated, private airport security. What's going to make it better? Keep in mind that it has to be better almost everywhere or its worthless.
10 posted on 10/27/2001 10:18:46 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Wphile
Hey no kidding. If anyone thinks they want the security workers federalized, you need only point them to the US Post office. Is this what we want our airport security to replicate? I think not.

To be fair, I don't think that's a comparable example. There are plenty of reasonably competent federal workforces like the Secret Service, the Coast Guard, and ATC, to name just a few.

This is a security detail, and would have to be structured as such. The notion that supervisors could not take disciplinary action is nonsense. If an air traffic controller needs to be fired, for example, he can be fired without many problems.

I know our President doesn't want to create another federal workforce, but the reasons he is citing are bogus. And I have to admit, I think our party may be wrong on this one. I would never de-federalize a defense bureaucracy like the Coast Guard, and I think this is one of those basic national security tasks that may be best performed by the federal government as part of the constitutional mandate to provide for the common defense.

11 posted on 10/27/2001 10:44:13 AM PDT by ignatz_q
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To: liberallarry
Unionized federal employees are unshakeably democrats, and they're some of the worst and the most lazy people around. Can't make 'em work and can't fire 'em either.
12 posted on 10/27/2001 10:44:31 AM PDT by onyx
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To: MeeknMing
The LAST thing the country needs is another huge civil service bureaucracy adding tens of thousands of feeders at the public trough, all of whom would immediately figure out that their raises and do-nothing jobs depend on voting Democratic.

Airport security should remain the business of private firms. Stiffer regulation alone will suffice to make airports more secure. It is a canard to claim that the eyes on a salaried civil servant pulling down 50 grand a year are inherently more reliable than the low-wage personnel now doing the job. Firms can be encouraged to "professionalize" their employees through regulation, and perhaps higher salaries for these positions are in the public interest. But another government bureaucracy is definitely against the public interest, and I say it should be fought against tooth and nail.

13 posted on 10/27/2001 11:13:36 AM PDT by beckett
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To: ignatz_q
The notion that supervisors could not take disciplinary action is nonsense. If an air traffic controller needs to be fired, for example, he can be fired without many problems.

You're just flat out wrong. Government employees are backed by one of the strongest unions in the country and the union fights every damned attempt to fire someone - whether they are in the wrong or not. Check the numbers.

14 posted on 10/27/2001 11:29:05 AM PDT by jackbill
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To: jackbill
You're just flat out wrong.

No, I'm not. There is not a single union that oversees all government employees, especially those in critical positions. Again, look at the Air Traffic Controllers. These guys are paid well, professionally trained, and can be removed from the job easily when they show incompetence.

15 posted on 10/27/2001 12:24:20 PM PDT by ignatz_q
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To: jackbill
True, but it's pretty tough to fire people in the private sector, too -- especially in large organizations.
16 posted on 10/27/2001 12:30:15 PM PDT by mdwakeup
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To: Wphile
The vote was unanimous because it was so obvious what needed to be done. The public generally supports federalizing airport security. Even unscientific polls substantiate this. Check out the one at Family Research Council (www.frc.org).
17 posted on 10/27/2001 12:33:19 PM PDT by mdwakeup
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To: onyx
Even if I agree with you that doesn't answer my question.
If you're right and I'm right and there are no other solutions then airport security is hopeless.
18 posted on 10/27/2001 1:02:48 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Zordas
I am not as clear on this as should be - but did see a man who is an expert - who was saying we should NOT federalize the Air screeners - but instead use private agencies that meet strict Federal standards - and pay these agencies from the Fed Government treasury - not from the Airlines. That is how, evidently, it is done in Europe now. Not that we should do everything Europe does - by no means. But since the flurry of hijackings and other terrorist activities Europe suffered in the 1970's - those countries (for the most part) did what had to be done to ensure safe air travel for their citizens.

Surely, America can do the same.

I am distressed to hear today that Bush has said he will not veto a bill that comes through with the Federalized Air Screeners. He must. But he won't. Because if he does - and if something else bad should happen on our airliners - he will be held accountable for not signing the bill! Sickening. Why couldn't the Republicans in the House and Senate put language that allows for federalizing it now but transitioning it to private agencies in 4 years - or something like that.

20 posted on 10/28/2001 12:29:38 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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