Posted on 05/10/2024 7:43:51 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
The education board for a rural Virginia county voted early on Friday to restore the names of Confederate generals stripped from two schools in 2020, making the mostly white, Republican district the first in the U.S. to take such an action.
By a 5-1 vote, the Shenandoah County board overturned its 2020 decision that stripped a public high school and elementary school of their original names honoring three military leaders of the pro-slavery South in the Civil War.
Under the board's action, Mountain View High School will again become known as Stonewall Jackson High, while Honey Run Elementary School will revert to the name Ashby Lee Elementary.
The names belong to some of the most well-known military leaders of the Confederacy. Robert E. Lee was commander of the Army of Northern Virginia; Thomas Jonathan "Stonewall" Jackson was a Confederate infantry general, and Turner Ashby was a rebel cavalry commander. All of them were Virginians.
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Agree with the first one, not the second.
They fought for the State of Virginia.
I don’t know how Jackson felt about Session, but Ashby opposed it and that Lee declined command of the North before accepting command of the South shows him to be a military man of principle who largely kept his politics to himself.
Sic Semper Tyrannus.
As for the Republic, such that it is, and such that it was, I doubt they were opposed to it as originally conceived, and would have been happy enough under other circumstances to fight for it as originally conceived. The Union, nest to our liberties most dear.
I go with Jackson: OUR FEDERAL UNION, IT MUST BE PRESERVED. And many Southerners agreed.
Robert E. Lee and Thomas J. Jackson were among the most honorable Americans ever.
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They had their noble attributes, especially Lee, who freed his slaves during the war. But we need to stand for freedom for all. Suppose you, or one of your ancestors, had been kidnapped and sold into slavery. Would you want a statue of your master erected in his honor?
I agree with (a different) Jackson—the Constitution is not a suicide pact.
As far as Andy goes, I’ll stick with Calhoun’s rejoinder, which you may realize was the counter toast to Andy’s line at the first Jefferson Day dinner.
The full toast is as follows:
“The Union — next to our Liberty the most dear; may we all remember that it can only be preserved by respecting the rights of the States, and distributing equally the benefit and burden of the Union.”
If you don’t want to respect the rights of the States and distribute the benefit and burden equally, you aren’t interested in Union but in exploiting other States.
We're friendlier with Japan than we are with "OUR OWN" in the south.
You don’t have to agree.
You going to tear down Washington’s and Jefferson’s monuments?
Remove their faces from our coin or currency?
Erase their names from our institutions?
No?
Didn’t think so.
Lee and Jackson fought against The Swamp (or, at least, perceived themselves as doing so); they’re heroes to me.
After “the Late Unpleasantness”, there was an semi-unspoken agreement that went something like this:
“We (the South) acknowledge that you won, and we won’t try it again.”
“We (the North) are proud of our victory, but we won’t be jerks about it.”
That led to such quirks of Americana as Confederate soldier statues (facing north, of course) in southern towns, and US Army bases named for West Point graduates who had served as leaders in the Confederate States Army.
Now, we have revolutionary leftists and self-righteous jerks throwing that agreement in the trash. America is the worse off for their efforts.
good. excellent, even.
Jackson should have hung Calhoun for Treason. And he would have crushed the rebellion in it’s cradle. Lincoln was a softy.
That’s your opinion. In their eyes Lincoln destroyed the Republic because he wouldn’t let the states secede.
Washington and Jefferson FOUNDED the US, not made war against it.
I see splody heads in their future.
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They could have fought against the Government, instead they decided to tear the Union apart. Lincoln was a softy. Jackson would have hung the traitors in 3 months.
What’re you talking about? Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus and then attacked the seceding states with the northern army.
How is that “soft” in your eyes?
They DID fight against the government.
I agree with you. Jackson was almost certainly more of a hard-ass than Lincoln. Whether or not that is a good thing is debatable.
Compared to Jackson, Lincoln in some ways was blest to be both right and president.
Jackson was the founder of the modern Democratic party, and a better man than Biden, and likely JFK.
Roughly comparable to LBJ.
I’ll stick with Truman.
The objection to which I responded involved owning slaves, so your comment is irrelevant.
Get this: You are NOT going to change my mind. I find the present collection of anti-Confederates to be a bunch of self-righteous jerks. At best. At worst they’re leftists trying to destroy all of American history.
“Lee, who freed his slaves during the war.”
They were not Lee’s slaves. They were the property of G.W.P. Custus, Lee’s father in-law. Lee was one of the executors listed the Custus will. The will authorized the executors to free the slaves once the debts and legacies’ were paid in full. But under no circumstance were they to be kept in bondage longer than five years after Custus’s death. Lee kept some of the Custus slaves for the entire five years, freeing the last of them in Dec 1862.
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