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Does The CIA Run America?
Epoch Times ^ | 04/29/2024 | Jeffrey Tucker

Posted on 04/29/2024 9:02:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

We’ve all surely had dark thoughts that the CIA is really running the United States, including many media venues. Maybe that’s been true for decades and we just didn’t know it. If so, let’s just say that it would explain a tremendous amount of what has otherwise been clouded in secrecy.

How would this be possible? Knowledge is power while secret knowledge is full control. Even fake knowledge means power and control, such as we found out in the phony Russiagate investigation early in Trump’s term. They hounded the new administration for years under a completely fake scenario in which Russia somehow got Donald Trump elected.

Yes, that was an intelligence operation all along, one directly designed to overthrow an election, a “color revolution” on our own soil.

How dare an agency not elected by the people, and evading oversight and public accountability, put itself ahead of the Constitution and the rule of law? It’s been going on for many decades as the agencies have gained ever more power, even to the point of forcing a full lockdown of America and even the world under false pretense.

None of this is verifiable precisely because of the secrecy involved. It’s not as if the intelligence community is going to send out a press release: “Democracy in America is an illusion. We know because we control nearly everything, plus we aspire to control even more.”

The incredulous among us will shoot back: look at what you are saying! Your conspiracy theory is non-falsifiable. The less evidence you have for it, the more you believe it. How in the world can we argue with you? Your position is not really plausible but there is nothing we can do to convince you otherwise.

Let’s grant the point. Still, let’s not dismiss the theory completely. Based on a New York Times (NYT) piece that appeared last week, it contains more than a grain of truth. The article is titled: “Campaign Puts Trump and the Spy Agencies on a Collision Course.”

Quote: “Even as president, Donald J. Trump flaunted his animosity for intelligence officials, portraying them as part of a politicized ‘deep state’ out to get him. And since he left office, that distrust has grown into outright hostility, with potentially serious implications for national security should he be elected again.”

Ok, let’s be clear. If the intelligence community led by the CIA is not the “deep state,” what is?

Further, it is proven many times over that the Deep State is in fact out to get him. This is not even controversial. Indeed, there is no reason for these journalists to write the above as if Donald Trump is somehow consumed by some kind of baseless paranoia.

Let’s keep going here: “Trump is now on a possible collision course with the intelligence community .... The result is a complicated and possibly destabilizing situation the United States has never seen before: deep-seated suspicion and disdain on the part of a former and perhaps future president toward the very people he would be relying on for the most sensitive information he would need to perform his role if elected again.”

Wait just a moment. You are telling us that all previous presidents have had a happy relationship with the CIA? That’s rather interesting to know. And deeply troubling too, since the CIA has been managing regime change the world over for a very long time, and is now directly involved in U.S. politics at the most intimate level.

Any president worth his salt should absolutely have a hostile relationship with such an agency, if only to establish clear civilian control over the government, without which it’s not possible to say that we live in a Constitutional republic.

And now, according to the NYT, we have one seeking the Presidency who does not defer to the agency and that this is destabilizing and deeply problematic. Who does that suggest really rules this country?

Is the NYT itself guilty of the most extreme conspiracy theory imaginable, or is it just stating facts as we know them? I’m going to guess that it is the latter. In this case, every single American should be deeply alarmed.

Crazy huh? As for the phrase “never seen before,” we have to push back. What about George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, James Polk, and Calvin Coolidge? They were all previous presidents, according to the history books that people once read.

There was no CIA back then. If you doubt this, I’m pretty sure that your favorite AI engine will confirm it.

One must suppose that when the NYT says “never seen before,” it means in the post-war period. And that very well might be true. John F. Kennedy defied them. We know that for certain. The mysteries surrounding his murder won’t be solved fully until we get the documents. But the consensus is growing that this murder was really a coup by the CIA, a message sent as a lesson to every successor in that office.

Think of that: we live in a country today where most people readily admit that the CIA probably killed the president. Amazing.

It’s intriguing to know at this late date that the Watergate “scandal” was not what it appeared to be, namely an intrepid media holding government to account. Even astute observers at the time believed the mainstream narrative. Now we have plenty of evidence that this too was nothing but a deep state attack on a president who had lost patience with it and provoked another coup.

All credit to my brilliant father who speculated along these lines at the time. I was very young with only the vaguest clue about what was happening. But I recall very well that he was convinced that Richard Nixon was set up in a trap and unfairly hounded out of office not for the bad things he was doing but for standing up to the Deep State.

If my own father, not a particularly political person, knew this for certain at the time, this must have been a strong perception even then.

You hear the rap that these agencies—the CIA is one but there are many adjacent others—are not allowed by law to intervene in domestic politics. At this point and after so much experience, this comes across to me like something of a joke. We know from vast evidence and personal testimony that the CIA has been manipulating political figures, narratives, and outcomes for a very long time.

How involved is the CIA in journalism today? Well, as a traditionally liberal paper, you might suppose that the NYT itself would be highly skeptical of the CIA. But these days, they have published a long string of aggressively defensive articles with titles like “It Turns Out that the Deep State Is Awesome” and “Government Surveillance Keeps Us Safe.” We can add this last piece to the list.

So let’s just say it: the NYT is CIA. So too is Mother Jones, Rolling Stone, Slate, Salon, and many other mainstream publications, including major tech companies like Google and Microsoft. The tentacles are everywhere and ever more obvious. Operation Mockingbird was just the beginning. The network is everywhere and the practice of manipulating the news is wholly normalized.

Once you start developing the ability to see the markings, you simply cannot unsee them, which is why people who think and write about this can come across as crackpot crazy after a while.

Have you considered that maybe the crackpots are exactly right? If so, shouldn’t we, at bare minimum, seek to support a Presidential candidate with a hostile relationship to the intelligence community?

Indeed, that ought to be a bare minimum standard of qualification. There is simply no way we can restore civilian control of government and constitutional government until this agency can be thoroughly reigned in or abolished completely.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cia; deepstate; ips; johnadamsproject; ncppf; waronthecia
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To: SeekAndFind

CIA is behind everything domestic, and the murder of JFK.
Tell me something I haven’t figured out…..

Here is something that the CIA hasn’t figured out:

Think about it. Intelligent people already see the fingerprints of the CIA throughout government and the media. Domestic interference and theft of the treasury, as well as denying Constitutional rights to Citizens. Eventually, everyone is going to be angry.

They were used to attack Trump by Obama, and that started this feud. The Trump policies are greatly favored by the American people, and keeping democrats in power is going to destroy the nation and Constitution. The CIA will become the open enemy of everyone, and the ultimate dismantling and punishment will be worse. Even if it’s not Trump, it’s going to happen. Soon the people are going to know that’s it’s not democrats, it’s you, behind the attacks on Trump and the average citizen.

No, I am not threatening anyone. Ask your think tanks and run your computer scenarios. Always ends the same doesn’t it? You cannot be socialist/fascists and not have it all turn against you eventually. It’s far better to step back now, and serve the people, then to charge into full meltdown.

First thing you do is come clean about 44. Who he is, who his family worked for, and your involvement. Then come clean about 2012, and subsequent elections. Come clean about the cartels, weapons, and drugs. Then Jan 6th. , and what you have done to Congress. Pledge to avoid domestic interference and back it with a plan., and return treasury money. Get out of the media, stop threatening and founding them. Let the free press be free. ROFLOL, never going to happen. You would rather destroy the nation and Constitution you pledged to protect.


21 posted on 04/30/2024 4:13:08 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan (Repeatedl)
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To: SeekAndFind

Eisenhower warned us, this is a COMMANDING general in WW2


22 posted on 04/30/2024 4:18:09 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: piasa

Gosh, what you’re saying sure sounds… oh, what’s the word…”spooky”.


23 posted on 04/30/2024 4:22:02 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to kill us. Plan to avoid this.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Does the CIA RUIN America? YES!


24 posted on 04/30/2024 4:53:22 AM PDT by RobertoinAL
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free; SeekAndFind; little jeremiah; generally; bitt

To: SeekAndFind
the NYT is CIA

TRUTH.
6 posted on 4/29/2024, 11:28:06 PM by The Truth Will Make You Free

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who owns NYT?
who owns WAPO?
who owns faux?


25 posted on 04/30/2024 4:55:52 AM PDT by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: bigbob

[Why didn’t (President) Trump release the JFK info?]

President Trump said, at that time, there were references to people who were still alive (again, at that time).

The way I read it, he was not able to release the information for that reason.

I always assumed that it would expose people who had been “assets” or “connected” in one form or another.

Dunno, that was just my guess. YMMV


26 posted on 04/30/2024 5:36:36 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d list JFK above RMN in the killed by CIA list.


27 posted on 04/30/2024 9:04:07 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Dems: We cheated fair and square!!!)
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To: bigbob
Are you sure he *had* it?

Granted, he told the Bushes "We know everything."

28 posted on 04/30/2024 12:34:18 PM PDT by ClarityGuy
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To: SeekAndFind

Ask anybody, and they will tell you that the CIA is run by John Wick and his dead dog.


29 posted on 04/30/2024 2:21:43 PM PDT by sergeantdave (AI training involves stealing content from creators and not paying them a penny)
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