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Analysts weigh in on 'far-reaching' Tesla layoffs as stock extends slump
MSN via TheStreet ^ | 04/16/2024 | Martin Baccardax

Posted on 04/16/2024 10:08:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Tesla shares extended declines Tuesday, pulling it close to the lowest levels since last spring, following the group's largest-ever job cuts, which have analysts and investors questioning the longer-term growth story of one of the market's most popular stocks.

The Austin electric-vehicle group (TSLA) unveiled the layoffs in a companywide memo penned by Chief Executive Elon Musk, who told employees it was time to "streamline the company for the next phase of growth."

"As we prepare the company for our next phase of growth, it is extremely important to look at every aspect of the company for cost reductions and increasing productivity," Musk said. "As part of this effort, we have done a thorough review of the organization and made the difficult decision to reduce our headcount by more than 10% globally."

The cull, which is likely to total around 14,000 employees, also included two key executives: Drew Baglino, who headed Tesla's battery division, and Rohan Patel, vice president for public policy.

Tesla shares have been in an extended drawdown since the company posted a weaker-than-expected first-quarter profit update in early February. The report included narrowing profit margins and a warning that full-year delivery totals would be "notably lower" than they were in 2023.

Deliveries have also disappointed investors, with the group handing over 387,000 new cars to customers during the three months ended in March. That was a 20% decline from the record 484,000 it notched over the final months of last year and the biggest miss to estimates since Wall Street began compiling data in the mid-2010s.

Weaker-than-expected sales figures from China, where last month's volumes fell to the lowest levels in more than a year, are also adding to pressure on the market's aggressive full-year delivery targets for Tesla.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ev; layoffs; tesla
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1 posted on 04/16/2024 10:08:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This was 10%. Nothing new. Musk has done this periodically, and it is a bit normal in some industries to periodically layoff 10%, the dead weight.


2 posted on 04/16/2024 10:09:26 AM PDT by Reno89519 (If Biden is mentally unfit to stand trial, he is mentally unfit to be president. He needs to resign.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, lets see if the other EV makers get the hint. The market for EVs is declining and there is no profits to be made with them, and losses in revenue and assets are the only things to expect.

But, they keep listening to government edicts, so, losses will continue to mount for the whole EV market.

Sorry to hear about the Tesla decline, because, I like Musk, but then, he has to listen to the people and the people are not buying.


3 posted on 04/16/2024 10:16:05 AM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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To: adorno

Anyone with two brain cells to rub together would look at the EV market and be able to fully predict what is going to happen to Tesla and every other dominant makers of EVs, but only if the government doesn’t get the point of shoving BS down people’s throats before people catch on to the scam.

It is a race against time. There is still hope to kill EVs.


4 posted on 04/16/2024 10:28:32 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: rlmorel
There is still hope to kill EVs.

EVS have no reason to exist.

Only government demands and dictates and government purchasing assistance, have kept EVs alive.
5 posted on 04/16/2024 10:39:16 AM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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To: adorno

IMO-—MUSK will make more PROFIT with STARLINK & SPACE X


6 posted on 04/16/2024 11:03:40 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: SeekAndFind

Analysts know NOTHING, just trying to earn a paycheck with clicks.


7 posted on 04/16/2024 11:18:22 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: Reno89519
This was 10%. Nothing new. Musk has done this periodically, and it is a bit normal in some industries to periodically layoff 10%, the dead weight.

It shows the bias of Wall Street against Tesla. As you say, a 10% reduction is nothing new, Tesla has done it a few years ago, and will do it again. Other companies periodically do it also, yet their stock goes up - example is Cisco recently. (I've owned stock in Cisco, and own stock in Tesla.)

It is a buying opportunity in Tesla stock, and it will double in price by end of year.

8 posted on 04/16/2024 11:39:38 AM PDT by roadcat
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GE, under Jack Welsh, had an open policy of culling the lowest performing 10% annually.


9 posted on 04/16/2024 11:42:07 AM PDT by HonorInPa
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To: adorno
Sorry to hear about the Tesla decline, because, I like Musk, but then, he has to listen to the people and the people are not buying.

To be fair to Musk and Tesla, people are buying. However, Tesla is constrained by parts availability and has a long waiting list for buyers who put down deposits. They make a profit on every vehicle they sell, unlike Ford and GM who lose money on each EV.

10 posted on 04/16/2024 11:42:42 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: ridesthemiles
IMO-—MUSK will make more PROFIT with STARLINK & SPACE X

He has smartly kept those companies private, away from the interference of Wall Street analysts. IMO Tesla will make more profit from their electricity utility division and AI/robotics division which will include robo-taxis.

11 posted on 04/16/2024 11:46:10 AM PDT by roadcat
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They make a profit on every vehicle they sell, unlike Ford and GM who lose money on each EV.

I do hope Tesla is successful, because, I do like Musk. We need his success because we need his voice in helping America succeed against democrats.

But, reality is that, the EV market is small and fading, and we have far too many in the auto industry in denial about that reality.

BTW, why is Tesla valued at many times the value of GM or Ford or many other car-makers? The ICE car makers sell many times what Tesla sells, and TEsla will never sell more than the other car makers. A high stock valuation will not sell more Teslas.
12 posted on 04/16/2024 11:54:47 AM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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To: SeekAndFind

This way lousy sales don’t cut into Elon’s billions of dollars he rapes from the company to stuff in his own pockets


13 posted on 04/16/2024 11:55:42 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: adorno
BTW, why is Tesla valued at many times the value of GM or Ford or many other car-makers? The ICE car makers sell many times what Tesla sells, and TEsla will never sell more than the other car makers.

Good question, but answers are all over the map. Why is META (Facebook) going for over $500/share? META was going for $119/share in early 2023 and shot up to $500/share one year later (kicking myself for not buying while watching). One answer has to do with AI and supercomputing. Well, Tesla is also heavily involved in AI and supercomputing, having AI resources that are more powerful than Facebook.

The key here, is that Tesla is not a car company. They are a technology company, and their strength lies in AI and supercomputing. Their electricity utility division and AI/robotics division are poised to overtake their car profits in the near future (a year or so).

14 posted on 04/16/2024 12:12:28 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Reno89519

Drew Baglino, Tesla’s head of powertrain and electrical engineering, was among a number of top execs who quit or were laid off.


15 posted on 04/16/2024 12:30:12 PM PDT by Miami Rebel
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To: HonorInPa

Company I worked for did the same thing. They called it “mowing the grass.”


16 posted on 04/16/2024 3:07:48 PM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: roadcat
The key here, is that Tesla is not a car company. They are a technology company, and their strength lies in AI and supercomputing.

Nice try but, Tesla was way overvalued before AI become known or widely used. Tesla is still a car company, and if you take away the EVs, Tesla becomes extinct, even as a technology company. "X-Tech", which is what I would call the car-less Tesla, would then be competing against Microsoft and Google and Facebook and IBM, which means that, Tesla would essentially be the new kid on the technology block.

Take awy the car, and Tesla stocks will tank.

Still, Tesla stock skyrocketed 5+ years ago, and way before AI and way before Musk took over Twitter. The battery division would not exist without the car division.

But, I don't mind the tech competition, if they wanted to go that way. We need as many tech companies as possible, for better prices and better tech reasons.

Tesla, the car company, is still overpriced.
17 posted on 04/16/2024 3:22:03 PM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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To: adorno
Take awy the car, and Tesla stocks will tank.

No, nice try. It was not Musk's intention to remain in the market selling cars. The guy is playing chess while you and others play checkers (or tic-tac-toe). He had a simple financial plan, to push the world towards using EVs. Build a sports car for rich investors, then build an EV sedan, then build an EV SUV, then build an inexpensive $25K car for the masses. He has stuck to this plan, with a diversion into semi-trucks and the CyberTruck. The semi-trucks help in moving components between factories, and the CyberTruck is an experimental platform for testing new technology to go into future cars (the $25K car and a robo-taxi). He then plans to exit building cars for the masses, will shift to robo-taxis and is focusing on AI and robotics.

His FSD for self-driving is the best in the world, and is due to their AI tech, and that tech will go into the TeslaBots that he is building. That alone, will surpass his EVs in profitability.

The stock skyrocketed, and I got in early and have seen my holdings multiply during two splits. Even with the recent decreases, I'm holding for the long run because I still have profits and expect it to rebound this year.

18 posted on 04/16/2024 5:27:15 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat
It was not Musk's intention to remain in the market selling cars. The guy is playing chess while you and others play checkers (or tic-tac-toe).

Not his intention? That's a very poor way to start a business. The mission statement most certainly always includes what the "leader' or founder intents to do with his business, in the long term. Any founder that states a goal of getting out or selling the business, undermines the whole company, and the stock is sure to take big hits.

Playing chess? You have no idea what chess involves, and as a chess player myself, who has a son being a master in the game, I'm pretty sure that Musk's game plan did not include selling or just being an outside observer of 'his baby'. Something as complicated as staring a business and getting it to thrive, is as challenging as being a chess-master. Once you reach a high-level playing field, you don't call it quits.

EVs were around before ICE vehicles. and there was/is a big reason why they didn't take off. Musk thought he had a better idea about how to make EVs work for the masses, but, that is a mission far too distant, and perhaps never to happen.

AI robots? Perhaps he can make it happen, but then, there are others in that field, and some that are more advanced than what Musk has produced so far. But, like I said before, the more the merrier and with more competition, the world can only benefit.

There are things that Tesla and other EV makers are not telling the buying customers, but, seeing the losses and retooling that's happening all over the EV industry, things are not looking good for EVs overall.

But, keep your chin up and hope for the best, but I would be very skeptical right now about EVs.
19 posted on 04/16/2024 7:50:27 PM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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To: adorno
Any founder that states a goal of getting out or selling the business, undermines the whole company, and the stock is sure to take big hits.

You have a lack of understanding of Elon Musk's thinking. His mission was to push the world into EVs. He is accomplishing that, successfully. His intention is to now shift into robo-taxis. Tesla will continue to build EVs, although the focus will be to build and utilize robo-taxis. That is where Tesla will make money on EVs in the near future. He believes that the public will shift to calling robo-taxis for transportation rather than be burdened with personal ownership of cars.

Myself, I will continue to enjoy owning my own vehicles. I have four, including one EV, and enjoy using and modifying them. But there is a segment of society who will not want to own cars. I also believe that EVs won't penetrate market share of vehicles beyond 40 percent, and that is where I differ with Musk and others who believe the world will shift to all EV use.

Keep an eye on August 8th this year. That is when Tesla will reveal the robo-taxi.

20 posted on 04/17/2024 2:22:45 AM PDT by roadcat
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