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Men are skipping college: 4 reasons why you should pay attention
News Nation ^ | 4/1/24 | Andrew Dorn

Posted on 04/01/2024 1:01:07 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19

Men are turning away from college and the shift could have profound implications for the economy, their health and the American family.

Today, only 39% of young men who have completed high school are enrolled in college, down from 47% in 2011, according to a recent analysis by Pew Research. That works out to about 1 million fewer young men in college compared to just over a decade ago.

The trend isn’t new but as scholars like Richard Reeves have pointed out, the gradual retreat from higher education signals a larger crisis facing boys and men.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


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To: beef

Men should become nurses solely to work in men’s prisons.


81 posted on 04/01/2024 6:48:32 AM PDT by ronniesgal (have you even tried to mind your own business?)
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To: zeestephen

A union is not necessary. I was making $180k/year with no degree, just some college courses specific to my field.


82 posted on 04/01/2024 6:52:07 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, I am free at last)
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To: arthurus

Yes, it’s mostly the fault of government. DOE regulation and the teachers union monopoly have corrupted lower education and government grant money has corrupted higher education.

But there is another sickness that can’t be blamed on government alone, but rather is the fault of the same societal decline that has gradually allowed the government to get too big and powerful in the first place:

We the People have delegated too much to the universities by hiring based on educational degrees and credentials rather than judging and testing candidates for ourselves through apprenticeships, internships and experiential training.

Two of my children were so good at coding that they skipped college altogether, and still rose up to become project managers and then executives in their companies. For whatever reason, coding was so “results oriented”, that their superiors were able to look past degrees and credentials and judge then and promote them on merit alone.

Meanwhile, my other two children did complete their advanced degrees, one in nurse anesthesiology from U of PA, the other in law from Villa Nova. Both are doing quite well in fields that make proper use of credentials without sacrificing merit-based advancement.

Other than a few exceptions though, higher education is completely corrupted - even the sciences - where grant money is awarded according to how much one’s thesis supports the bogus climate change narrative.

All applicants know that if they want a grant to study X, they need only phrase their request “The affects of climate change on X” and they will surely be awarded their grant. It’s become a total joke.


83 posted on 04/01/2024 6:59:19 AM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: DesertRhino

By requiring a degree as an initial filter, HR avoids discrimination lawsuits.


84 posted on 04/01/2024 7:04:59 AM PDT by bobcat62
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To: Rennes Templar

Engineering was sold out by Congress to Indians on work visas. If a US citizen male wants to remain unemployed, an STEM degree is the way to go.


85 posted on 04/01/2024 7:07:04 AM PDT by bobcat62
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To: enumerated

Reality Check. If we do not fix this and educate Americans all of our educated jobs and management will be people from foreign countries, such as India.


86 posted on 04/01/2024 7:37:57 AM PDT by Reno89519 (If Biden is mentally unfit to stand trial, he is mentally unfit to be president. He needs to resign.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Girls go to college to get more knowledge
Boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider


87 posted on 04/01/2024 7:39:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Not to worry, eventually they’ll just draft all the males for cannon fodder.


88 posted on 04/01/2024 7:41:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: bert

With AI, now you don’t even have to be able to write well.


89 posted on 04/01/2024 7:44:33 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: combat_boots

There was a time when young men who could afford it, used the college exemption to avoid the Viet Nam War draft. Many went on to get useless advanced degrees and ended up teaching in college.

This was the start of the higher education racket. Indoctrination replaced education and expanded colleges were merely for the employment of the politically acceptable professors.

This was followed by the meaningless study programs such as Ethnic and Women’s studies followed by the LGBTQ studies.

Intelligent young men are becoming savvy to this and are eschewing this route for useful trade school educations and the use of the Internet for their liberal arts education, free of the political indoctrination. Example is Hillsdale College.

Today, “Higher Education” has metastasized into a dying animal, not smart enough to accept it’s extinction and fall down.


90 posted on 04/01/2024 7:44:38 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (“Who is John Galt?”)
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To: Redleg Duke

If I had to do it again, I would have considered studying abroad.


91 posted on 04/01/2024 7:45:25 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

I was lucky. I got my EE degree at the University of Wisconsin - Madison in the late 60s…before the rioters graduated and took over.

I got a fine education, including three courses in a liberal art (History).

I also fought three riots as a National Guardsman. I was offered a scholarship by the Dean of Engineering for my effort as a airborne observer and searchlight operator the Spring of 1970. He said that my efforts saved the campus. But, I was so turned-off by the antics of the unwashed that I politely thanked him, graduated, and started adult life.

One year ahead of “new math” and barely ahead of the demise of higher education.


92 posted on 04/01/2024 7:58:43 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (“Who is John Galt?”)
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To: dfwgator

True. Quite true.

People can generate a number of responses via AI, based on bulletized inputs.

Recognize this as a PSA for bot use.

We are nearly in a post labor world.

Do not be swayed b6 anything you read, see, or hear. Hold to what you absolutely know. This includes confidence in the Living God, whom leftmedia knows not.


93 posted on 04/01/2024 7:59:29 AM PDT by combat_boots
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To: Reno89519

We need a return to merit based career advancement. Basing hiring decisions set on degrees and credentials has led to the corruption of higher education.

The way back to sanity is not investing more into corrupted universities by sending our children and tuition $$ there, but rather by boycotting them into extinction, and letting new merit -based universities rise in their place.

And thankfully, this boycott is taking place - you are freaked out by it because you don’t understand that these young men are choosing wisely when they decide not to enroll in these failed Marxist hell-holes.


94 posted on 04/01/2024 8:00:50 AM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: Reno89519

We need a return to merit based career advancement. Basing hiring decisions set on degrees and credentials has led to the corruption of higher education.

The way back to sanity is not investing more into corrupted universities by sending our children and tuition $$ there, but rather by boycotting them into extinction, and letting new merit -based universities rise in their place.

And thankfully, this boycott is taking place - you are freaked out by it because you don’t understand that these young men are choosing wisely when they decide not to enroll in these failed Marxist hell-holes.


95 posted on 04/01/2024 8:00:51 AM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: RomanSoldier19
The reason why college, education and hiring are f'd up. Yep, you guessed it was the SCrOTUS that f'd it all up:

Griggs vs Duke Power Co.

96 posted on 04/01/2024 8:01:17 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: enumerated
We need a return to merit based career advancement.


97 posted on 04/01/2024 8:01:41 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Guess what happens in 10 years from now when men who are gainfully employed with useful jobs and who didn’t go to indoctrination camps are making more than women who did....

It will be called “sexist” and legislation will be passed to fix the problem.


98 posted on 04/01/2024 8:13:15 AM PDT by nitzy (I wonder if the telescreens in 1984 were first called "free Obamascreens")
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To: bert

Communication in ANY field is important if you have to communicate. (some people don’t have to, bless their hearts!)

I don’t think it was college that taught me to write. I began reading extensively at an early age (I read Moby Dick when I was eight) and never had a problem communicating.

I will say that I had great difficulty mapping out sentences (this is the preposition, this is the adverb...etc) but I could always write clearly.

When I was in the USN, I wrote letters like a madman, which helped before I went to college after I got out.

I love writing, which is one of the reasons I enjoy FR so much, even if most of the time I am too wordy for communication in this forum.

When people give me the TL/DR indication, I try not to take it personally-FR is just where I try to sharpen my skills both in writing and critical thinking.


99 posted on 04/01/2024 8:43:10 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: Tell It Right

I know what you mean, but I will say-the most brilliant computer person I know is self taught (an autodidact, if you will) and I believe the man is a genius.

Not kidding. And I work in IT at a high level. This guy started out as a patient greeter, and he used to help us out when we did upgrades, then we hired him to our team for desktop support, but he codes extensively...all self-taught!

Makes me feel like a clod. I sure wish I had his intellect.


100 posted on 04/01/2024 8:46:27 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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