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To: USA-FRANCE
Why do you give a pass on the invaders who disrespect borders

Borders are only valid if you can hold them.

Nothing new there - particularly in Europe.

Now that these regions are inside the Russian border, I hear you saying you will respect them.

70 posted on 03/12/2024 11:48:53 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

> Borders are only valid if you can hold them.

Ah, I think I’m beginning to understand your logical position now: families, lives, and morals do not seem to matter in your mind, peace is not valuable in its own right, and might makes right.

So please would you remind me again why you seem to be reasoning that NATO countries shouldn’t increase spending to 3% to increase their might? After all, you argue that borders are only valid if you can hold them - therefore more spending by NATO countries makes rational sense, right? They seem to want to keep their existing borders, thank you very much.

From a historical perspective, I cannot understand that someone would sincerely believe that NATO is likely to invade and annex Russia. (But recent events demonstrate that the converse is clearly not true: Russia has proven itself to be a potent, existential threat.)

NATO is unlikely to invade Russia unless it is in reaction to Russia first trying to change their borders unilaterally, a nuclear launch, or perhaps to reverse recent invasions by Russia, based on this logic:

> Borders are only valid if you can hold them.

We shall see whether or not Russia is able to hold on to their somewhat newly asserted borders in Georgia and Ukraine. Russia might hold on to it, given the lack of NATO resolve to respect their past treaty commitments to Ukraine.


98 posted on 03/12/2024 1:44:57 PM PDT by mbj
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“Now that these regions are inside the Russian border, I hear you saying you will respect them.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Oooooh...
So let me as you this then:

If gang of fine Antifa members invades your house. They kick you out, and then declare that the house is officially theirs. In such scenario, do you really think that it’s THEIR house? Really??

Wouldn’t you, at the very least, call the police to kick out those invaders and take your house back?

Or is your house valid as your own property only as long as no-one is stealing it from you?

Have you ever heard the term “get off my land!”

Some food for thought....

And now this:

When Hitler illegally invaded most of Europe, and when he decided that all the countries he stole were suddenly part of the “Third Reich” borders... it only worked for 5 years. Right?
In 1945 the Western resistance against Hitlers regime dismantled those fictive “borders”.

Same goes for Putin. He is just a guy and a thief. It’s not because he stole parts of Ukraine and later re-invented new fictive borders that it all suddenly becomes reality and lawful. Right? His borders are based fiction, delusion and lawlessness. There is not a single country in the world having recognized the new Putin-invented borders. Why? Because every one knows its a grotesque joke.


107 posted on 03/12/2024 3:24:57 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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