Posted on 03/04/2024 9:48:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Representative Jamie Raskin, a Maryland Democrat, on Monday said he's working with colleagues on legislation that could bar someone who committed insurrection from holding office.
Raskin made the announcement after the Supreme Court unanimously ruled that former President Donald Trump should appear on the primary ballot in states that have challenged his presidential candidacy.
"I'm working with a number of my colleagues—including [Democratic Representatives] Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Eric Swalwell—to revive legislation...to set up a process by which we could determine that someone who committed insurrection is disqualified by section three of the 14th amendment," Raskin said during an appearance on CNN.
On Monday, the U.S. Supreme Court reached a 9-0 decision to side with Trump and overturned a decision by the Colorado Supreme Court that the former president should be removed from the state's ballot in the 2024 election for his alleged role in the January 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol.
In August, the former president was indicted by the Department of Justice (DOJ) in its investigation regarding the riot. The insurrection saw a mob of Trump supporters—allegedly incited by his unfounded claims of widespread voter fraud—violently protest at the Capitol building in a failed effort to block Joe Biden's 2020 Electoral College victory. Trump has plead not guilty in the case, maintaining his innocence.
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Let’s change the language a little bit: The insurrection saw a mob of abortion supporters—allegedly incited by Chuck Schumer’s unfounded claims of the Supreme Court reaping the whirlwind —violently protest at the home of Supreme Court Justices, in violation of Federal law, in a failed effort to effect the outcome of a Court decision.
Pack your bags Chuckie. Jamie Raskin’s legislation can be used against you too.
He was formerly charged. In his second impeachment, Tump was charged with âÂÂincitement of insurrectionâ by the House of Representatives. The trial was held by the Senate and he was acquitted.
Trump was acquitted of insurrection by the only court with the authority to try a President.
Raskin, up for election, is pretending to be relevant by following the Kim Jung Un gambit.
I hate to say it, but you are absolutely correct.
The national debt is going to be the downfall of this once great republic.
more election interferance
there is even visual evidence that newscum recall was scammed .
Let My People Go
https://rumble.com/v4h3s20-free-worldwide-release-let-my-people-go-by-dr.-david-clements.html
It would make more sense to me that legislation should be drafted barring any one running for office as a dimocRAT because they are avowed communists and communism is antithesis to this Representative Republic.
You may want to read this:
Judges Have No Legal Authority to Bar Trump From 2024 Ballots
Hans von Spakovsky / November 02, 2023
As state court proceedings get under way in Colorado, Michigan and Minnesota in lawsuits aimed at barring Donald Trump from appearing as a presidential candidate on the ballot in next yearʼs presidential election, the judges in those cases should understand that the text, history, and application of the 14th Amendment make it clear that they have no legal authority to take any such action.
Due to Trumpʼs supposed actions on Jan. 6, 2021, the challengers are trying to argue that Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, the disqualification clause, prevents him from being president even if he is elected, so he should be removed from the ballot by state election officials.
Section 3 provides that:
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector for President and Vice President, or hold any oWice, civil or military, under the United States … who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an oWicer of the United States … to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same … . But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Because Trump allegedly engaged in an insurrection, according to the challengers, he is disqualified by Section 3.
There are three major legal problems with that claim, however.
Trump Didn’t Hold An Applicable O ce
First of all, Section 3 only applies to individuals who were previously a “member of Congress,” an “officer of the United States,” or a state official. Trump has never been any of those.
He has never held state office or been a U.S. senator or representative, and the U.S. Supreme Court held in 1888 in U.S. v. Mouat that “officers” are only those individuals who are appointed to positions
within the federal government.
Individuals who are elected—such as the president and vice president—are not officers within the meaning of Section 3.
The Supreme Court reiterated that view in 2010 in Free Enterprise Fund v. Public Company Accounting Oversight Board, in which Chief Justice John Roberts concluded “the people do not vote for ʻOfficers of the United States.ʼ” They are appointed under Article II of the Constitution.
It must also be noted that while Section 3 applies to an “elector for President or Vice President,” it does not specify that it applies to the president or vice president. This supports the argument that the drafters did not mean for Section 3 to apply to the president and vice president, which, again, is not surprising, since they are not “Officers of the United States.”
No Conviction for ‘Insurrection or Rebellion’
Second, no federal court has convicted Trump of engaging in “insurrection or rebellion” in violation of 18 U.S.C. §2383, which makes it a crime to engage in “any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States.”
More importantly, in the second impeachment resolution of Trump on Jan. 11, 2021, he was charged by the House of Representatives in Article I with “Incitement of Insurrection.” Yet, he was acquitted by the Senate.
Given our federal constitutional system, state and federal courts should not gainsay the findings of Congress on this issue. The risk of inconsistent rulings from state and county election officials, as well as from the many different courts hearing these challenges, could cause electoral chaos.
Further, Congress has never passed a federal statute providing any type of enforcement mechanism in the courts for Section 3. While some argue that this provision is self-executing and no legislation is required, legal scholars such as Josh Blackman and Sett Tillman point to an 1869 decision of a federal circuit court presided over by U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase, which held that “legislation by Congress is necessary to give effect to” Section 3.
Under that holding, in the absence of such legislation, states do not have the ability to throw accused insurrectionists off a federal ballot, whether they are running for Congress or the presidency.
Section 3 No Longer Extant?
Third, there is an argument that can be made—and which was already adopted by one federal court— that Section 3 doesnʼt even exist anymore as a constitutional matter.
Keep in mind that the 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868 after the end of the Civil War. It was aimed at the former members of the Confederate government and military who had previously been in Congress or held executive posts.
All of the challengers filing lawsuits to try to remove Trump from their state ballots are ignoring the final sentence in Section 3, which is a unique provision found in no other amendment to the Constitution. It allows Congress to remove the disqualification clause “by a vote of two-thirds of each House.”
Congress voted to remove the disqualification twice. The Amnesty Act of 1872 stated that the “political disabilities” imposed by Section 3 “are hereby removed from all persons whomsoever” except for members of the 36th and 37th Congresses and certain other military and foreign officials.
Note that there is no time limit in this language.
Congress even got rid of these remaining exceptions in the Amnesty Act of 1898, which stated that “the disability imposed by section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States heretofore incurred is hereby removed.”
There was no language preserving any of the disqualifications for future cases.
In short, these anti-Trump ballot challenges are lawfare at its worst, trying to use the law and the courts as a political weapon. All of these lawsuits should be dismissed.
But if any of these state courts rule against Trump, they should immediately stay their decisions and allow Trump to remain on the ballot.
If they donʼt, and their decisions are later overturned by an appellate court after the election when votes have already been cast, there will be no viable remedy.
On the other hand, if their rulings are upheld, then even if Trump won the election, he could still be barred from actually serving, although I seriously doubt that the ultimate decider on this issue, the
U.S. Supreme Court, would uphold any such ruling, given the weakness of the challengersʼ claims.
You have to realize just how ignorant of the Constitution and stupid in general is the average member of the Leftist base. This won’t go anywhere, but it will fire up the Crazies. Reading some of these kooks on Reddit yesterday and you can actually feel how angry and delusional these people are when they discuss removing Trump in any way possible in order to “Defend Democracy.” They make no sense yet their hive mind feeds into the delusional until the outbursts spill over into the real world.
But Raskin and other leftist dumb@sses keep trying to use the 14th amendment.
Each one of the treasonous rats should adorn a lamp post along Pennsylvania Avenue.
Never occurs to these folks to change their policy to win. Just eliminate the competition. Muh! Our Democraseeeeeee!
Amen and a double spoonful..
Doesn’t the Constitution specifically prohibit Bills of Attainder?
Every time I see those numbers I get mad all over again. Especially at the GOPe collaborators like Ronna and Mitch who just let it happen because it was Trump.
Wouldn’t he have to be formally charged and found guilty of insurrection? That could take awhile.
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