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How Elon Musk's SpaceX was boosted in Indonesia by a Chinese rocket failure
AsiaOne ^ | FEBRUARY 19, 2024

Posted on 02/20/2024 4:19:30 PM PST by nickcarraway

When a Chinese rocket malfunctioned shortly after launch in April 2020, destroying Indonesia's US$220 million (S$296 million) Nusantara-2 satellite, it was a blow to the archipelago's efforts to strengthen its communication networks. But it presented an opportunity for one man.

Elon Musk — the owner of SpaceX, the world's most successful rocket launcher — seized on the failure to prevail over state-owned China Great Wall Industry Corp (CGWIC) as Jakarta's company of choice for putting satellites into space.

The Chinese contractor had courted Indonesia — Southeast Asia's largest economy and a key space growth market — with cheap financing, promises of broad support for its space ambitions and the geopolitical heft of Beijing.

(Excerpt) Read more at asiaone.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: china; indonesia; musk; spacex

1 posted on 02/20/2024 4:19:30 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

A Chinese rocket exploding. What a surprise.

At least the fuel tank wasn’t full of water like their nuke forces.


2 posted on 02/20/2024 4:23:53 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: nickcarraway

Either Indonesia or China has a short memory (or both):
Serious violence against Chinese people has occurred at irregular intervals since 1740, when the soldiers of the Dutch East India Company and other ethnic groups from Batavia killed up to 10,000 people of Chinese descent during the Chinezenmoord. The worst outbreaks took place in 1946-49 during the Indonesian National Revolution against Dutch rule. [More than a million Chinese were killed.] There were significant outbreaks in the early 1960s. Violence against Chinese also took place in 1965 after the failed coup attempt during anti-communist purges... In May 1998, many Chinese businesses were burned down and many Chinese girls and women were brutally raped and murdered.


3 posted on 02/20/2024 4:29:26 PM PST by Bookshelf
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To: Seruzawa

I remember water rockets


4 posted on 02/20/2024 4:44:38 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: nickcarraway
Due to clear skies, from my yard at home in the Orlando area I was able to see the successful launch of the Indonesian Merah Putih 2 satellite this afternoon. The technology and skill of the Space-X operation is amazing, a private sector operation with reusable boosters making access to space cheap, convenient, and reliable. The Space Coast economy is booming, and it looks to be a permanent thing instead of the boom-bust cycle of NASA's programs.

Meanwhile, the Lockheed-Martin and Boeing government contract duopoly (and China) struggle with delays, technological snags, and failures in their launchers, satellites, and manned programs. The remarkable but badly flawed Space Shuttle was a technological dead end, but, courtesy of Space-X and Elon Musk, we are now developing the means to have a permanent manned presence in orbit, on the Moon, and on Mars.

5 posted on 02/20/2024 5:11:48 PM PST by Rockingham (`)
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To: nickcarraway

It is time to realize the big Con that is Elon Musk. Besides the fact that he is highly subsidized, he continues the big lie. For instance,

The thrust from ANY rocket will cease long before 329k feet(So called Space) for two reasons: 1. Rockets move forward by the exhaust gases impacting ambient air pressure, not by mass acceleration. F=ma produces, hardly any thrust. 2. Above 150k feet the ambient pressure is so low the chemical reaction of fuel and oxidizer will not sustain to consume the fuel. Even a hypergolic reaction of two chemicals will not “burn”. Therefore what goes up will always come down.


6 posted on 02/20/2024 6:12:55 PM PST by mazz44 (http://knowledgeofhealth.com/why-animals-age-they-produce-less-vitamin-c-same-for-humans/)
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To: mazz44; All

Ummmm ok. You want to explain the concept of an “attitude thruster control” mechanism?

Maybe a little light reading

https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/16-30-estimation-and-control-of-aerospace-systems-spring-2004/36bc9c9cdcbe81057b93846ce1a24b96_ch3_nnl_extra.pdf

Just curious. I must have mis-read your post


7 posted on 02/20/2024 7:47:41 PM PST by Texaspeptoman (Even cannibals... get fed up with people sometimes.)
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To: Texaspeptoman

Thrusters...same issue. They would not work in the environment, as they define as Space. Furthermore, it is not thrusters that get a rocket to the Karman Line. A Rocket cannot get there, based on the laws of science. No matter what anyone says, otherwise. They are liars or all their “definitions” are used to deceive.


8 posted on 02/20/2024 8:19:30 PM PST by mazz44 (http://knowledgeofhealth.com/why-animals-age-they-produce-less-vitamin-c-same-for-humans/)
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To: Texaspeptoman

“Must have misunderstood your post.”

A better question would be, “Why would they keep the following from the Halls of Academia and the rest of us?”

https://youtu.be/ATL7ugx6E6c?si=R1qWk8tUY33HMpn7


9 posted on 02/20/2024 9:06:25 PM PST by mazz44 (http://knowledgeofhealth.com/why-animals-age-they-produce-less-vitamin-c-same-for-humans/)
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To: mazz44

So you have just proved that rocket thrust does not work in space. Congratulations are in order! You have proved the tinfoil crowd correct, now you need to prove why the Earth is flat. Go man go!


10 posted on 02/21/2024 4:36:00 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF
Wow. I had a person tell me the Flat Earth Society was created by the CIA to discredit the idea of conspiracy theories.

Definitely makes you wonder...

11 posted on 02/21/2024 7:46:15 AM PST by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: marktwain

I had a person tell me the Flat Earth Society was created by the CIA to discredit the idea of conspiracy theories.


CIA could be part of this conspiracy to hide the truth that rockets do not work in space. Its possible ... like the Flat Earth.


12 posted on 02/21/2024 8:51:44 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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