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To: JonPreston

While I used to assume Odessa was a goner I have come around to the idea that Ukraine will keep it.

I’ll be surprised if Ukraine loses it now.


2 posted on 12/30/2023 1:14:03 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

I bet


3 posted on 12/30/2023 1:14:39 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: ansel12

We are waltzing into to WW3.

And right now, I am not sure the US will have western Europe as it’s allies.


4 posted on 12/30/2023 1:15:33 PM PST by redgolum (We are not going to make it, are we. )
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To: ansel12

I think Odesa was always one of if not the main goals. I don’t think this ends until the Russians take it.


11 posted on 12/30/2023 1:26:29 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: ansel12

If Russia conquers Ukraine, Poland, the Baltic countries and Eastern Europe are next on the list.

Wait and see.


37 posted on 12/30/2023 2:12:55 PM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: ansel12

If Russia conquers Ukraine, Poland, the Baltic countries and Eastern Europe are next on the list.

Wait and see.


40 posted on 12/30/2023 2:16:22 PM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: ansel12

The Russian Navy is certainly turning the bottom of the Black Sea into a naval junk yard.


42 posted on 12/30/2023 2:25:58 PM PST by lodi90
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To: ansel12

It depends on how magnanimous Putin wants to be. NATO and its client are incapable of preventing the Russians from doing anything they want in Ukraine. Considering the fact that Odessa has been Russian since Catherine the Great, it will soon be Russian again.


57 posted on 12/30/2023 2:43:44 PM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: ansel12
I’ll be surprised if Ukraine loses it now.

If Ukraine doesn't surrender, the Russians very likely will move on Odessa.

There is no way Russia is going allow another military build up in what's left of Ukraine and keep any access to the Black Sea.

If you're conceding territorial loss, then you should be pushing Ukraine to surrender. It's the only chance it has of avoiding being landlocked country as poor as Moldova.

132 posted on 12/30/2023 8:55:50 PM PST by Kazan
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To: ansel12

Bkmk


142 posted on 12/31/2023 6:10:37 AM PST by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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