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Gaetz’s GOP support could put McCarthy Speakership in Democrats’ hands
The Hill ^

Posted on 10/03/2023 4:50:36 AM PDT by FarCenter

Fresh off averting a government shutdown, House members on both sides of the aisle are being thrust into the second historic Speakership battle in a year — forcing Democrats to confront a big political decision.

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) on Monday moved to force a vote on ousting Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), largely based on the handling of a “clean” continuing resolution (CR) to keep the government open on Saturday.

It marks just the third attempt in House history to remove a sitting Speaker — following an unsuccessful move against Speaker Joe Cannon (R-Ill.) in 1910 and one against Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) in 2015 that was also unsuccessful, but contributed to his later resignation.

At least four House Republicans said they will support or are leaning in favor of the “motion to vacate.” In the slim House majority, just a handful Republican lawmakers could be enough to push the Speaker out — largely depending on how Democrats vote.

That means where Democrats stand is the wildcard that could determine whether McCarthy holds onto the gavel or becomes the first Speaker to be voted out.

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Depending on absences, just five GOP votes in favor of booting McCarthy as Speaker could put the onus on Democrats.

House Minority Whip Katherine Clark (D-Mass.) sent a letter to House Democrats on Sunday informing members that, if a motion to vacate is offered against McCarthy, the group “will have a Caucus wide discussion on how to address the motion to best meet the needs of the American people.”

House Democrats are scheduled to huddle during their weekly caucus meeting Tuesday morning.

Democrats could allow McCarthy to remain in the Speakership without directly voting for him by voting “present” — or not at all.

Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) has been coy about the caucus’ plans for a potential motion to vacate, brushing aside questions as hypotheticals and insisting that the group will “cross that bridge” when it gets there.


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1 posted on 10/03/2023 4:50:36 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Won’t happen ….. wishful thinking by democrats


2 posted on 10/03/2023 4:51:55 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: FarCenter

DO IT!
McCarthy lied, and we’ve had enough of that kind of stuff.


3 posted on 10/03/2023 4:52:49 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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To: FarCenter

I hate to break this to people, but in case folks somehow haven’t noticed...

The letter after the name means jack anymore.

The only reason political parties still exist is to give voters the illusion of choice.

A pol is either loyal to our former republic or to Deep State.

Congress is Deep State.

George Washington warned us.

Read his Farewell Address.

Pity we didn’t listen.


4 posted on 10/03/2023 4:53:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: FarCenter

It already is in democrats hands but republicans are getting the blame for everything because of democrat assistant McCarthy.


5 posted on 10/03/2023 4:53:41 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: mewzilla

Full Agreement


6 posted on 10/03/2023 4:54:51 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: mewzilla

I should have listened to my much younger cousin some years ago when he asked my the rhetorical question: what are you complaining about regarding the politicians. His answer, they are all the same guy.

Once I recognized he was right, I have been hoping that entire city up there would be sucked up by a giant tornado.


7 posted on 10/03/2023 4:58:06 AM PDT by Mouton (US Home to one party rule)
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To: no-to-illegals

Wishful thinking by The sHill


8 posted on 10/03/2023 4:59:32 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: FarCenter
As if it isn't in Democrat hands now.

Keep punching, Matt!

9 posted on 10/03/2023 4:59:42 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: FarCenter

Nothing is going to change until everything is swept off the board. At some point, there will be a reckoning and it won’t be pretty.


10 posted on 10/03/2023 5:01:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (They say "Our Democracy" but they mean Cosa Nostra.)
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To: JonPreston

If it were in democrat hands, there would be no Impeachment inquiry. That would be shut down on day one.


11 posted on 10/03/2023 5:02:15 AM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: Mouton
It's not just DC, not just at the federal level.

Every level of bureaucracy, from local to federal, has been weaponized by Deep State.

From 1963...

Bureaucracy Kills: A Lesson from Rome

12 posted on 10/03/2023 5:02:38 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: no-to-illegals

If McCarthy loses 7-10 Republicans, he can’t win, will a Democrat become Speaker, that won’t happen, a Republican speaker who has agreed to do a number of things Democrats want is much more likely and making him beholden to Democrats to keep his job.

It would be the ultimate irony, a self-professed MAGA Conservative forcing a vote on McCarthy that ends up making him beholden to Democrats to keep his job.

Would that ever happen under Democrats ?? I would say the chances are ZERO.


13 posted on 10/03/2023 5:04:10 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: XRdsRev
there would be no Impeachment inquiry

That time would have better spent taking the day off and going fishing.

14 posted on 10/03/2023 5:05:21 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: FarCenter

Like there’s a difference?....................


15 posted on 10/03/2023 5:08:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: mewzilla

“The only reason political parties still exist is to give voters the illusion of choice.”

Bingo. This whole McCarthy thing illustrate that perfectly.


16 posted on 10/03/2023 5:10:00 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: FarCenter

Why would the Democrats, want to get rid of one of their own?


17 posted on 10/03/2023 5:10:05 AM PDT by spincaster
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To: FarCenter

McCarthy needs to unify the Republican Party if he wishes to remain Speaker of the House. How do you do that? Address all of the grievances, one by one, and state what the party will do. If he cannot or will not agree, then vote him out and find someone who wishes to adhere to the desires of the Party. I personally lost faith in the Party years ago when I recognized that their real function became as a cardboard cutout to serve as the ‘foil’ to the liberals, who also serve the Washington grifter elites. They are for show only and represent the same masters.


18 posted on 10/03/2023 5:20:36 AM PDT by silent majority rising
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To: FarCenter

McCarthy to,d Bold Face Lies to his GOP House Conference. He cannot be
Trusted.


19 posted on 10/03/2023 5:21:49 AM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: FarCenter

After McCarthY survives this they need to kick Gaetz out of the Republican Caucus and strip him of his committee assignments.


20 posted on 10/03/2023 5:23:32 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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