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Democrats Join McCarthy In Celebrating Budget Stopgap—And Taunting MAGA Wing
Forbes ^ | 9/30/2023 | Brian Bushard

Posted on 09/30/2023 3:57:42 PM PDT by Javeth

In a post on X, progressive Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) called the bill a “win-win” for allowing federal employees to continue to receive paychecks, and for riling far-right Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), who she says “threw a tantrum.”

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) also celebrated the vote, saying “all extreme right-wing policies have been removed” from it, arguing in a post that “MAGA Republicans have surrendered.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: budget; kevinmccarthy; rino; shutdown
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To: Jim Noble

What are you even going on about here? “universal franchise elections”? look at the Declaration?” What does this even supposedly mean? And what are you even trying to get at when Trump is the most popular politician in America right now despite the wall of indictments and fiat declarations by 5 different corrupt kangaroo courts, something that’s never happened in American history, not even for serial killers or drug cartel kingpins?

The American people can see through this, they know there’s a desperate concerted effort against Trump because he’s the only one speaking to the people and fighting the entrenched corruption, and the corrupt officials know they can’t beat him at the ballot box. You think maybe the establishment including the GOPe is getting a little desperate? You realize those courts have already spent over $50 million of American taxpayer money on all these counts? All the while America is being flooded by fentanyl and gang and cartel criminals? You think maybe the courts would have different priorities?


81 posted on 09/30/2023 6:42:49 PM PDT by Javeth
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To: TornadoAlley3

Last time the Dems laughed and laughed at “rolling” the conservatives. When TSHTF, will they be laughing?


82 posted on 09/30/2023 6:49:20 PM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness )
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To: Javeth
And sadly the GOP’s current “leader” in the House is one of those working the hardest to make sure that conservatives get nothing of substance at all for the next year.

Why should he help you?

How many Members of Congress have you elected? 15? 20?

You have to accept that you will not save the nation by electing Members of Congress in universal franchise elections.

The Declaration of Independence states that "whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness".

Are you safe? Are you happy?Start thinking about how (peacefully) you can get about altering and abolishing.

83 posted on 09/30/2023 6:49:22 PM PDT by Jim Noble (They have taken untold millions that they never toiled to earn)
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To: Javeth

McCarthy is weak and must go.


84 posted on 09/30/2023 6:49:53 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( What did Obama know, and when did he know it? Did Obama know Biden was taking bribes?)
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To: Big Brother Go to Hell

It’s tragic because that’s exactly where this reckless policy is heading, that Cowardly Kevin is totally on board with. Even the liberal Democrat mayor of New York pointed out the invasion of the US border is on track to overwhelm and bankrupt the city and the whole country, turning the US into a 3rd world country overnight. We’re already there for a lot of the country sadly, they’ve been utterly overrun by criminals, cartel members and the fentanyl, meth and other poisons they bring in. The Sacklers may have started the opiate crisis with all of Purdue pharma’s crimes but the cartels are now flooding the country with a whole army of drug pushers, and it’s even getting into American schools and playgrounds.

This is part of why our national debt and deficits keep surging ever higher, no country could ever even begin to cover the costs of an invasion this massive and ongoing. But Kevin Mccarthy, Marco Rubio, Nikki Haley, Paul Ryan and the other sellouts to the cheap labor lobby don’t care. They keep getting richer from their bribes and they’ll just fly off to some gold plated bunker somewhere when the US falls apart from their betrayal. It’s why we’ll never get border security with Cowardly Kevin as the House leader, he’s been specifically put it into power to back-stab his own base and make sure it doesn’t happen.


85 posted on 09/30/2023 6:49:59 PM PDT by Javeth
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To: MNJohnnie
Politics is not a game of absolutes. Some times you fight a battle knowing your going to lose to send a message to voters.

Sometimes in poker, you have to fold your hand. This is one of those times.

Kevin McCarthy had leverage during the debt ceiling increase and he didn't use that.

86 posted on 09/30/2023 6:52:07 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Jim Noble

Now I think I see, you’re saying this won’t be solved through the election process because of all the corruption and how deeply rooted it’s got. Sadly you may be right here. We’re trying to cling to some hope here and keep fighting electorally, but have to admit a lot of us who used to fight the good fight have come to the same conclusion you already have. And it may be true. It is admittedly looking more and more like that now, with Mccarthy betraying us on the single most important issue for American survival with the border, at a time when we’re being actively invaded by literal armies every day, with nothing done to stop it. Not just even a threat anymore—an active documented invasion, first by the cartels and criminal gangs and lately by huge hordes of West African and Middle Eastern migrants including many more gang members, terrorists, thieves and criminals.

In any other time in history in almost any other country, this would get the nation’s defenders up and standing guard to fight the invasion and protect the nation’s survival. But even the leader of the main house of Congress for the “conservative” party just betrayed us on this most fundamental priority. And he’s preparing to do the same to us again 2 to 3 weeks from now when the budget fight starts up again, showing once again he’s a fully paid off pawn of the cheap labor lobby. So yes you may be right here, and the extreme excesses of the Trump indictments show further proof of this. We hope we aren’t there yet, but many of our own friends and family agree with you here we may be past a point of no return already.


87 posted on 09/30/2023 7:00:09 PM PDT by Javeth
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To: MinorityRepublican

This is why Mccarthy’s surrender is so pitiful, he had strong positions in both cases and he just gave them right away. Without even doing anything to provide protection on the border even as the US is getting actively invaded. Doing nothing to stop Biden’s army of new Lois Lerner’s to shake down conservative businesses and individuals in the American heartland to make sure we pay for our own replacement and for the crimes being committed against us and our children. If Mccarthy was just a terrible poker player that would be pitiful enough. But it’s become clear with his latest back-stabbing that he’s actually with Jeffries and Biden on this, and actively undermining any effort to protect America from invasion as a fully bought and paid for member of the cheap labor lobby.


88 posted on 09/30/2023 7:03:54 PM PDT by Javeth
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To: patriot torch

That’s exactly what’s going on now, and the cheap labor lobby led by Soros, Gates and Bloomberg made absolutely sure they were purchasing a reliable sellout when they started bribing Cowardly Kevin. He does little more than make a show of standing up for Americans and the heartland on the border and cutting spending for Biden’s tax collector goons, then when crunch time actually arrives, brings out the knife to back-stab conservatives and the American people. Every time. The cheap labor bribers are definite getting their money’s worth with their boy Kevin.


89 posted on 09/30/2023 7:07:57 PM PDT by Javeth
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To: Javeth

90 posted on 09/30/2023 7:11:51 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (=uran)
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To: Javeth

91 posted on 09/30/2023 7:14:50 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (=uran)
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To: enumerated

There is another way: secession.


92 posted on 09/30/2023 7:20:35 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Dick Bachert

The chilling thing about this is what this poster warns about, is exactly what we’re seeing right now with the outrageous excesses of what the kangaroo courts are throwing at Trump, and with the cheap labor lobby’s undermining of any attempt to stop the active, dangerous invasion of our border by hordes of thousands of every day. It’s pure Stalinization right now in front of our eyes, with over 90 counts in 5 different courts? I wasn’t sure what the term for it was but one of my old attorney friends just confirmed it, what that New York judge did with that outrageous, summary judgment against trump is called an attainder apparently. It’s strictly illegal from even before the Constitution and obvious corruption, pure tyranny of an unelected official now used against a Presidential candidate and rival for power who’s the most popular official in America now.

Not even the bloodiest serial killers or cartel kingpins have gotten more than a couple dozen charges in a single American court or at most two, one state one federal. And yet a former President and active candidate who stands against the establishment and it’s corruption, the most popular candidate in America gets 90 counts? That IS Stalinism, right here in the USA.

And it’s happening together with the Stalinism against the American people themselves, the massive invasion of our borders and millions of illegals pouring in every few months, many gangsters, criminals and drug cartels and tons of deadly fentanyl, meth and other drugs with them. Not just the usual cartels either, now the criminal gangs from West Africa and the Middle East are being mass rushed over the border and terrorizing even sleepy heartland American towns and small cities that used to be safe. Even our kids now are facing dangers from fentanyl overdoses in school cafeterias and playgrounds, they’ve been reporting multiple cases of this in just the past few weeks alone, even in elementary schools! And it’s all being pushed by Soros, Gates, Bloomberg, the Chamber of Commerce, Zuckerberg, Kochs and the rest of the cheap labor lobby, because they profit from America’s misery.

And it’s also worth mentioning that at center of both of these examples of fast creeping Stalinism in America, is Kevin Mccarthy himself. He’s clearly been bought and paid for to betray conservatives and the most important needs of our communities, and he’s too wedded to his bribes to even pretend to take a stand. He’s not even trying to hide his treason anymore. Aside from his back-stabbing on behalf of the cheap labor lobby on the border with his budget surrender today, he’s also subtly undermining the impeachment hearings to given Biden a taste of the medicine he and the Dems and GOPe are using to attack Trump.

That’s part of why Stalinism is here now. The Founding Fathers relied on a strong, patriotic opposition to stand up and fight for the USA and our Constitution, and we used to have that. If we had that now, then our leader in the House would stand tall and not budge an inch until we have border security, the bare minimum for a functioning country, cuts to Biden’s goon squads and he’d also keep fighting with the impeachment hearing. And the Republicans in general would be mobilizing to make sure that GOP prosecutors, district attorneys and officials across the 50 states started a wave of investigations and indictments of Democrat officials, to deliver a message to the Democrats that whatever they’re doing with their kangaroo courts against Trump, the opposition can do to them too and won’t hesitate.

Instead, the Republicans are quiet, timid and utterly pitiful on this, and won’t even being to put up a fight against corrupt and criminal Dem officials. Not even the pretence of an effort to fight on our behalf, even in the most obvious of ways to counter the kangaroo courts against Trump and defend the border and the Americans being overrun by the invasion. Like we said before, the Reupblican Party is dead to us right now they don’t deserve the votes of a single conservative. Not until they first, start the process to remove Mccarthy as speaker, push forward with real impeachment hearings and investigations and then, give criminal Democrats a taste of the same medicine and indictments they’re doing against Trump now. It’s long past time for action.


93 posted on 09/30/2023 7:31:20 PM PDT by Javeth
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To: central_va

It does look like this is where things are heading. It looks like Jim was making a similar point when I got what he was saying, number of others too. When even our own “leaders” like Cowardly Kevin are bought and paid for by the cheap labor lobby, it starts getting clear we’re being pushed into a corner


94 posted on 09/30/2023 7:35:11 PM PDT by Javeth
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To: Javeth

The only way to beat the Federal Government is for each state to be willing to break all ties with it. Get your state to get out of the union. Screw the union. The state is the fail safe mechanism against federal tyranny.


95 posted on 09/30/2023 7:39:15 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Cowardly Kevin needs to be gone within two weeks, no more. That’s the tiny little interval we have before, the next round starts up in the budget fight, this stopgap won’t even provide funding for 30 days based on what the budget official was just saying. And we can’t go into that fight with an open back-stabber and bought-and-paid for RINO shill of the cheap labor lobby like Kevin Mccarthy in charge.

He needs to go, and if the GOP is too timid and weak to actually move on this when we’re actively being invaded by literal armies crossing our border every day, then it’s curtains for the Republican Party. And, a new conservative party actually defending the heartland and our communities will have to take it’s place. They don’t deserve a single conservative vote unless they start fighting, both fight for the border security and start up countering indictments against corrupt Democrats as a counter to the kangaroo court excesses they’re throwing against Trump.


96 posted on 09/30/2023 7:41:32 PM PDT by Javeth
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To: central_va

The states were indeed conceived as, actual states ie. countries and nation-states in the original documents and agreements. With the full rights and privileges of full, functioning states. Something that current propagandists writing our textbooks try to ignore as desperately as they can


97 posted on 09/30/2023 7:43:05 PM PDT by Javeth
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To: Dick Bachert

Damn that picture of Obummer practically snuggling up to Soros at top right of that Marx poster, didn’t even notice it at first. Tells you exactly what’s been going on.


98 posted on 09/30/2023 7:48:50 PM PDT by Javeth
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To: griswold3

They should care but they don’t. The Dems, cheap labor sellouts like Mccarthy and the rest of the Uniparty shills, GOPe and RINO sellouts are fully bought and paid for, bribed to the gills. They know they’re ruining the country with their corruption, open borders for an active invasion going on right now, kangaroo courts and massive deficits and inflation. They just don’t care, they figure they and their kids will have enough bribery money from their betrayal of the American people to just head off to some gold plated bunker somewhere when TSHTF. They don’t seem to have realized that when things get that bad that fast, they won’t be able to supply their cute bunkers for very long, and they’ll be among the first to starve and get overrun by the angry hordes from the mess they themselves invited.


99 posted on 09/30/2023 7:52:31 PM PDT by Javeth
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To: Owen

That’s complete delusion, all this Ukraine coping is over one of the lowest and least important priorities of the whole budget fight. It’s almost meaningless and the funding got restored elsewhere anyway. (To say nothing about the tens of billions in the Pentagon black budget, that’s where the real funding comes from) All the Ukraine coping is pure spin and coping delusion, drawing attention to an almost irrelevant issue in the budget debate that has almost no impact at all on the massive budget deficit and national debt and sends us just as fast into insolvency. And also something few Americans care about either way, to distract from Mccarthy’s failure to do anything AT ALL on the things Americans do care about and need.

Above all that’s border security, THAT is what Mccarthy was sent to negotiate and fight with Jeffries, Schumer, Biden and the other Demonrats about. That is where he had to stand tall and not flinch until he got concessions. And that is what by far most urgent and relevant for the American people right now. Forget about some conflict like 10000 miles away that’s already winding down and settled into about a permanent statemate, the United States is dealing with an active, massive and dangerous invasion right now over our borders.

Thousands of invaders pouring over the US border into the American heartland daily now. Coming from criminal organizations, massive cartels, West African gangs, Middle Eastern terrorists and hundreds of thousands of more looking to drop anchor babies and milk our resources in America dry—coming in every single month at that rate. Our own streets, homes and shops aren’t safe anymore. Even many of the calm, sleepy rural towns near where we grew up are getting invaded now. Americans are being assaulted and victimized, fentanyl and meth are winding up even in American school cafeterias, gyms and playgrounds.

THIS is what Mccarthy was sent to negotiate for and it’s the one issue that he was commanded to fight for and not yield an inch on. The one area he needed to show backbone on to defend the American people and heartland,that and cuts to Biden’s budget extremes especially his new goon squad of Lois Lerners. And he gave in and failed, miserably when Americans actually needed him most, to be a leader. And it’s not the first time, more proof he’s just a shill for the cheap labor lobby.

The budget fight is starting up again within two weeks, remember this is just a tiny stopgap and the deficit is pushing up so fast it won’t even get us another month out, and we need to have a real leader, and it’s why Mccarthy has to go. He’s a traitor in the worst way. If the GOP can’t even muster up the fight for this and stand up for the American people, it doesn’t deserve a single conservative vote. It’s time to put up or shut up.


100 posted on 09/30/2023 8:06:36 PM PDT by Javeth
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