Posted on 06/14/2023 5:42:16 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Thanks for posting that about teachers failing literacy. I used to post variants of it and forgot you were the one who did it first.
That word “discriminatory” began as a favorable term (”discriminating palate” “discriminating among fine piece of art”).
And why not choose the good, highly qualified teachers who help educate children properly over the ones who are not competent?
In the private sector, they’d be fired. Public employees are rewarded for poor performance and bad behavior.
Can they write headlines good?
I used to be an English teacher in AZ about 10 years ago. Even when I had a Masters in English, I struggled to make $40k a year. At that salary, I could not qualify to buy a house at median value which was pushing $200k at the time here. Health care was a big chunk of my paycheck as well. I eventually achieved a 92% pass rate for the state AIMS test for HS graduation.
I dont want to defend crappy teachers by any means. I couldnt afford to live on that amount. In AZ the teacher union doesnt really amount to anything (right to work state). We legally were not allowed to strike here either. A strike did happen a few years ago, and the legislature did raise salaries slightly. With California moving in, the cost of everything went up, houses in my neighborhood are now 400k minimum, gas is the same price as CA, and we had some of the worst inflation in the nation here.
Honestly, if I could afford to, I would love to teach still, but probably wouldnt be. I was the only conservative teacher at my school. And yes, I had to pass multiple tests to get my teaching license, literacy and professional exams. Math had math and professional to meet standards.
I guess my point is, that how do you afford to live on some of the state prescribed salaries in places like NY, California, and even Phoenix when the cost of living is driven out of proportion? Im just being real about that part. Shouldnt I have a chance to buy my own house? Or do I have to take a vow of poverty to be a teacher?
Salary schedule for PHX HS District: https://www.pxu.org/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=44613&dataid=64036&FileName=NEW%20Certified%20Salary%20Schedule%2022%2023%20SY.pdf
Plank #10 of the Communist Manifesto: Free education for all children in government schools. (https://laissez-fairerepublic.com/TenPlanks.html)
People value things at exactly what they cost them.
They value free government-school education at zero because that's what it costs them.
That's why public education eventually devolves into Communist indoctrination centers and chaos.
The school system we have is derived from the Prussians, who invented it so that they could train farm boys to obey and become good soldiers after Napolean Bonaparte cut through them like a hot knife through butter.
Education does not have to take place in sterile education factories/prisons.
Proof is that home-schoolers are some of the highest performing students in the country.
Abolish government schools and there will be a demand for private schools, where teachers can be paid what their services command on the open private-school market.
I repeat: There should be no such thing as "public" education or government schools.
This idea is perfectly fine. It would take some time to build that equity of getting what you pay for. I could see it might help insulate education from influences such as CRT and similar because since you are paying for a product, you should get what you contracted for. The big question is can a school be run and afford to pay its bills? The school I was in cost over $5 million, which was borrowed from the state. You have to pay that back. Say you have 30 teachers, at perhaps 50k salary, that is a big chunk. That 50k salary is low around here based on cost of living. Overhead, investment in technology, etc. Its a big economic puzzle to solve. My school had 500 HS students, and many were at the poverty line. Say you had to hit $2 mil per year, which I think is low, that would be $4k tuition.
You are collectivist. You believe in a “living wage” and not being paid what you’re services are actually worth.
Can’t help you.
Enjoy your collectivist paradise.
I am by no means a collectivist whatsoever. I am so far on the capitalist side its not even funny. I was more trying to apply what I know of the costs, and potential reality of paying for that level of education.
To the point, I am in a Sr position for the company I work for here in Phoenix. I am trying to hire several people, that in a more jr position want to be paid more than I am currently. They want to be paid Bay Area hourly rates. Hell, I want to be paid on the Bay Area scale for what I do. To that point, I am developing my own businesses so I can pay myself what I feel I am worth. I will grant you that I probably could put more value on my knowledge and skills, most of us could do the same.
You seem to believe that all kids should be educated by somebody.
If you want your kid to go to school you pay for it.
The schools would have to pay enough to entice teachers.
If they are able to get parents to commit to the needed amounts, the school would come into existence.
If not, no school.
It’s not rocket science.
Right now we have schools where zero percent of the kids can read.
It would be better to not have schools where they are simply warehoused until they commit enough crimes to go to prison.
Awesome!
Could you help me out a bit. I can’t get my plants and trees to grow at all on Brawndo. It has electrolytes, its got what bodies need. What are you doing different to get your stuff to grow on Brawndo?
I dont mind the approach that any given endeavor should be able to stand on its own two feet. However, I have seen this happen for decades, is that retirees all complain up a storm about their tax dollars supporting schools. They dont want their money going there, just give me roads without potholes, and make sure the water and utilities stay on. Not much of a society there.
One of the key ways of any group of people to grow and advance is investing in their own society. The main means that most every country of the world does that is first funding education of its people. If those people advance, the country advances with it. Unless of course we water our crops with Brawndo, and eat Taco Bell all the time.
Well they might spell better than you!~!
Teachers are useless
Awesome.
You believe in Plank #10 of the Communist Manifesto.
Can’t fix stupid.
That’s not a spelling problem, it’s a tablet, stylus and 83 year old hand working at an awkward angle. But thanks for noting.
No sweat FRiend.....I felt bad after posting....
Don’t...I’m sort of a jagoff that needs scolding once in awhile!😀
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