Posted on 03/02/2023 7:57:28 AM PST by Twotone
They're single but they're not mingling.
New data from the Pew Research Center has shown that 63% of men under 30 are single – up from 51% in 2019.
COVID isolation and women’s high expectations for something serious are the main reasons they’re avoiding going out and coupling up, young guys say.
“Dates feel more like job interviews now. Much more like ‘What can you do for me and where is this going?'” said Ian Breslow, a 28-year-old high school teacher who lives in Astoria.
“The ‘getting to know you’ period is gone and that doesn’t feel so great after coming out of isolation.”
He recalled a recent first date that went quite well until the woman interrogated him on their walk home.
“She literally asked me, ‘Would you rather our kids go to public or private school?’ Followed by several more extreme questions about getting married. I just started responding with what I knew she would hate the most to get her to leave,” Breslow told The Post.
Experts agree that women are certainly wanting more than ever before.
“The overall picture [is] that if a woman is going to go on a date with a man, chances are it’s not for a casual fling,” Ronald Levant, professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Akron, told The Post.
“Especially if the woman is kind of getting close to 30, [she’s] thinking about the biological clock and wants to have a family, he added.
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“If they are too unhappy, they can win in divorce court.”
My son’s divorce was an eye-opening experience as the woman judge bent over backwards to give everything possible to a wife who, during 2 years of separation, almost never visited her kids, didn’t give a penny to support them - but filed false tax returns claiming them (the IRS eventually figured things out and she now owes a ton to the IRS), took the “stimulus” checks for the kids (illegally)...and had left the marriage so she could sleep with another guy. AND who sent photos of herself in bed with her boyfriend to the kids!
And my son? He was obviously part of the patriarchy as he provided for the kids, raised them for 2 years without her, handled all the medical and school stuff...
And now it is “joint custody” and HE owes her “child support” even though the tax returns show she is making more than he is! The kids do NOT want to live with their mom but the judge didn’t care. The kids say all she cares about is money...but the judge didn’t care. After all, didn’t she start crying in court?!!!!!
*** We are lucky.***
I call it blessed. We will hit 38 years in a couple of weeks.
If your a guy spend your 20’s- early 30’s working on you. Education, career etc. Then if you want to get married go find yourself a nice girl in her early to mid-20’s who wants kids, comes from a good family and understands the value of a good man.
Anecdotally, I’m a gray haired older guy in what is the magic demographic of being physically attractive, tall/well built, and the top few % of earners
Younger women (most with young children) seem to be able to notice the third factor despite my attempts to appear ordinary and initiate conversations and offer their contact info on a regular basis despite my obvious wedding ring and often having kids and sometimes even my wife with me
It’s ridiculous (and I’m not interested at all) but lately I’ve begun to almost feel sorry for them as the desperation is so obvious
I don’t expect to ever enter that world again (married same woman most of my life and intend to stay that way) but if I was any offer of that level of intimacy on a first date would certainly cause me to assume some not so nice things and walk away
If a man is in his late 20’s, 30s, what is his purpose in dating? Women in that age group are often not looking for long-term friends. That time of life is already late for starting a family.
“Highly successful women” gets zero points from men.
That is a really hard lesson for women to learn.
It may not be fair—but it is the way it is.
An unmarried woman in her late 20s used to be called an “Old Maid” or “Spinster”.
Interestingly enough I talk to a lot of the younger guys I work with about this. A lot of these guys said girls demand certain physical heights, certain pay scales, and certain life styles. All unrealistic expectations. Funny thing is they say even the 4’s and 5’s demand this. LOL.
There’s a reason arranged marriages have worked across cultures and times. These women aren’t smart enough to know what they need. In fairness, that goes for some of the men too.
i started at 31... wife the same...
this process is driven by women... real women. they need to make better decisions for the sake of society.
Definitely one of the key takeways.
Young women should ask themselves how much they REALLY want that big career (and can they achieve it??). Is that sufficient to make them live a happy life? And they should ask older single women -- "You have a career. Is that enough? Would you do it differently a second time?"
Feminism have steered a lot of women wrong, IMO. Being submissive, cooking, cleaning, and raising kids is a pretty solid path for a woman to be happy. But a lot women don't see that for about 30 or 35 years and then it's too late to grab that life and also too late for them to change their personality to be the sort of person they should have been in the first place. They were lied to.
Then you have called her stupid bluff. Pat her in the head and send her on her way. She’s the one who started talking about sex, not him.
Exactly right. It’s obvious.
Good point.
Re: Dating
It is best that men and women reject dating “for fun and easy sex” and get together, instead, with a “courting” mindset.
and once they have the guaranteed support anchors in place... they can jettison their drone and join the guaranteed government support with some additional child support if the dad wants to actually SEE or KNOW his children...
plus there is always that one time cash payout for sixty percent of any property he owns.
and she can become the wicked woman she always wanted to be.
women initiate MOST divorces.
Women can “do it all”—but they have to get everything in the correct order.
They need to get married young—and definitely no children until after they are married.
Then they have choices.
If they don’t get that part right their lives are going to turn into drama drama drama.
In other words, one doesn't need emotional hit and run operations running and/or ruining the most important things in your life. The Bible is a very sensible "user's manual" and marriage counselor, and its wisdom has been well proven through the ages.
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