The earth is large beyond the average person's ability to comprehend it. New York is nothing and whatever virtue signaling New York engages in, has no measurable effect on the rest of the world.
Try telling that to a New Yorker...
Posted on 12/19/2022 6:56:40 PM PST by lowbridge
A state commission today approved plans to phase out fossil fuel-burning furnaces beginning as soon as 2025 as part of New York’s aggressive program to address climate change.
The plan adopted today by the state Climate Action Council requires energy-efficient electric heat pumps or other non-combustion heating systems in every new home built in 2025 or thereafter.
For existing homes, residents whose fossil fuel-burning heating units give out after 2030 will have to replace them with a zero-emission system.
Those are just two of the many policies in a 445-page plan adopted today by the state Climate Action Council, a 22-member commission made up of state agency leaders, environmental experts, energy industry leaders and others.
Some of the policies approved today in the Climate Action Council’s “final scoping plan’' require further action before they can be enforced. The new regulations on heating systems, for example, will require changes to the state building code. Other changes may require new legislation.
But the council’s “final scoping plan” is now the official policy for how state government will meet goals for greenhouse gas reduction required under a state law passed in 2019. State regulations must follow its prescriptions, said Robert Howarth, a Cornell University professor and a member of the Climate Action Council.
“Agencies are supposed to go ahead and start following the plan -- making regulations, doing whatever it is that needs to be done -- as of next month,’’ said Howarth, a professor of ecology and environmental biology.
Get ready to learn about electric heat pumps.
In Central New York, officials are planning for a massive housing boom to accommodate thousands of workers expected to build and staff new chip fabs for Micron Technology. The transition to new household heating technology could be especially significant.
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Correct, heat pumps are not efficient in low temps. Electric heating strips will do the job but use enormous amounts of electricity
More here...
https://www.wkbw.com/news/state-news/nys-climate-action-council-approves-scoping-plan
Get a load of the bit about “climate justice”.
Note to the acronymic oxymoron that is the NYS GOP: Talk. Is. Cheap.
Yes, that works, too. I would speak with our “elected representatives” but both of them are crazy Libs.
Earth to the Dwerps in Albany and NYC, there isn’t enough electric generation capacity to power all of these homes, and all of the EVs that you are all wet-dreaming about.
There has to be some constitutional argument here. They are causing harm. What gives them this authority? These people are going to trample on our liberty and standard of living over a claimed ‘climate emergency’ that ignores countries like China and India INCREASING their carbon footprint.
Deep State knows this.
Deep State doesn’t give a damn.
This isn’t about saving the environment any more than CoupFlu policy is about protecting public health.
I have an idea. All trucks that enter NYC must not run on fossil fuel. Let’s see how they handle that one, since most of the pollution emanating from NYC is due to this.
I really need to leave.
If a person for some reason wanted to stay there it would be wise to buy a replacement furnace now and a lot of parts to keep it running long term
However, that son-of-a-gun is put to the test bigly in the summer and it rarely has to run at full power (because it's always running a little anyway).
The decision a year ago to replace my old A/C unit and natural gas furnace with that heat pump, combined with my decision to replace my old natural gas water heater with a hybrid water heater and duct the warm air from the attic into the air intake of the water heater (free hot air in most of the year, might as well use it to heat the water), and duct the water heater's air output optionally into our living quarters (free cool air coming from the water heater, might as well use that 9 months out of the year to help cool the house), that was probably as important as going solar so I'd produce most of the power we need in our now all-electric home. If someone is in the south like me but isn't in a situation where they can install solar (i.e. have too many trees), I recommend at least looking into what I did with appliances.
The next Joseph Kennedy will be providing full service old fashioned heating systems on demand—trucking in all parts from out of state—and installing them without permits in the middle of the night.
“There’s no way to rule innocent men.
The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals.
Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them.
One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”
Ayn Rand
I would say, all of them.
How brown shirt sounding.
How about minus 12 degrees. This is insane. I hate NY, I'll have to move out by 2030.
Exactly, I can heat with my heat pump September thru October and again April and May. Then it's useful for A/C in the Summer months. But Dec, Jan, Feb and March I need the LP gas furnace and pellet stove to stay warm. The problem with these idiots and they neve can find a balanced approach, it's radical or nothing. Like cars, hybrids would be a good next step, not eliminating the ICE in 10 years.
That's about right here in upstate NY. Below 40 it's worthless.
One thing I like about your heat pump combined with natural gas furnace is you don't have all of your heating eggs in one energy basket. If the Dims make electricity too expensive to use a lot -- you can use your gas furnace even if it's only mildly cold and you would have preferred your heat pump. If the Dims make natural gas too expensive (or unavailable), can you get a least a little bit of warmth from your heat pump in the harsh winter cold? And can you run the heat pump and gas furnace simultaneously? If so, does the heat pump help enough to be worth is so that the natural gas bill is lowered some?
That's one of the reasons my wife and I have both an EV and ICE pickup. Since we need 2 cars anyway and since I was about to replace her car anyway, I replaced it with an EV instead of yet another used ICE car like I've done for years. Now we're in a situation so that if the Dims make gasoline hard to come by (like it was not too long ago) and too expensive to use a lot of (like it still is IMHO), we can shift most of our driving to the EV. If the Dims make electricity hard to come by or too expensive to use, we'll shift most of our driving to the ICE pickup. (Of course in our case we also have lots of solar and an all-electric home, producing most of the power we need including charging the EV. I'm trying to position us to be mostly independent energy-wise so our retirement investments have a hedge against the Dims jacking up our energy costs when I soon start retirement.)
The earth is large beyond the average person's ability to comprehend it. New York is nothing and whatever virtue signaling New York engages in, has no measurable effect on the rest of the world.
Try telling that to a New Yorker...
Yes, we’re on the same page, diversification makes sense in just about everything.
Are you saying that mandating electric heat is legit?
I’m sarcastically saying that in the long list of totalitarian schemes, this one isn’t a scam. I hate these Nazis.
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