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Florida family drives into electric car problem: a replacement battery costs more than vehicle itself
Fox Business ^ | July 18,2022 | Adam Sabes

Posted on 07/17/2022 9:31:51 PM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: JD_UTDallas

Yes you are correct. FPL has no coal units and is 78% natural gas. FPL covers the bulk of Florida. Gulf power which powers the panhandle still has mostly coal units. Coal is still cheaper than natural gas but is more expensive than hydro or nuclear. The problem is that the transportation sector of the us economy uses approximately 11 times the amount of energy produced by every nuclear plant in the country. So where is the energy (not to mention batteries) going to come from? Wind and solar are expensive fantasies and will never produce enough energy. so lots more nucs?


121 posted on 07/18/2022 7:13:56 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: MinorityRepublican
California is going to follow Australia’s lead. New ICE vehicles will be banned by 2035.

Utter insanity

122 posted on 07/18/2022 7:15:02 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: heavy metal
could’ve had a v8...

lol

123 posted on 07/18/2022 7:19:26 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: USAF1985

We’d have to refine the mechanics with gearing and pulleys to maximize distance and minimize rewind effort. We have many household appliances where the dangerous elements are inaccessible, or difficult to reach by the foolhardy.


124 posted on 07/18/2022 7:22:51 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew ("Poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese." -G.K. Chesterton)
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To: jdsteel

That’s great, are you saving up for that $14,000 battery change?


125 posted on 07/18/2022 7:23:53 AM PDT by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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To: familyop

There are not unlimited supplies of rare earth metals for magnets, lithium and cobalt either


126 posted on 07/18/2022 7:25:07 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: ByteMercenary
. Then you buy a nice ICE auto because hopefully you have learned your lesson.

One of the defining characteristics of Democrats/liberals/greenieweenies is that THEY DO NOT LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES.

Our economy is currently in a tailspin wholly due to the idiot policies coming out of washington. My neighbors three houses down were big Biden/Ho supporters. Now they are touting their mindless loyalty to the Demoshit party by plastering their lawn with signs for all of the Democrat candidates. Liberalism is a religion that worships big government. And for true believers nothing will share their faith.

The most costly of all follies is to believe passionately in the palpably not true. It is the chief occupation of mankind.
H. L. Mencken
127 posted on 07/18/2022 7:34:11 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Ah following time honored tradition at FR... ;)

First sentence of article:

Avery Siwinski is a 17-year-old who’s parents spent $11,000 on a used Ford Focus Electric car, which is a 2014 model and had about 60,000 miles when it was bought, according to KVUE.


128 posted on 07/18/2022 7:40:02 AM PDT by Freedom56v2
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To: Ex gun maker.

I did not have that problem on this site (tho I have on others).

I think there are some free popup blockers out there...


129 posted on 07/18/2022 7:41:28 AM PDT by Freedom56v2
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To: Hojczyk
Just wait till a junk yard tells them how much it will cost for the junker to take the car and dispose of the battery.

There will be driveways with dead electric cars filling them up and lots and lots of them driven into the woods and abandoned.

130 posted on 07/18/2022 7:42:36 AM PDT by Flint
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To: McGavin999

IF I keep the vehicle past the “Ford Option” 3 year financing plan, IF I don’t follow proper charging practices, IF the battery goes before the rest of the car does, IF the (inflation adjusted) cost of a new battery is that high and IF the free market has not come up with an affordable alternative then yes, I will be prepared.


131 posted on 07/18/2022 7:43:24 AM PDT by jdsteel (Do I really need a /sarc?)
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To: Hojczyk

Geesh, whoever sold her that thing is probably LTAO.


132 posted on 07/18/2022 7:46:55 AM PDT by dforest (We have to put a stop to this now.)
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To: Hojczyk

nothing new here. When I buy a 20 volt battery, I get a free electric drill with it.


133 posted on 07/18/2022 7:50:19 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Hojczyk

A regular car battery for my 2016 Honda Accord Sport is now $200 and up with tax!!
All because of the shortages of materials being used by the electric car.


134 posted on 07/18/2022 7:58:04 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: jdsteel

Great that you can afford that, but like I said in my original post it’s not affordable for the average American, it’s a “look at me I can afford to pay off a $48,000 plus vehicle in 3 years and trade it in on a new one so some poor sucker who doesn’t know any better gets stuck with the battery replacement costs” and if you are prepared to pay the $14,000 noted in the article adjusted by inflation then you can afford a status symbol.

The average American buying a new car pays $32,000 and is financed over 5 years. A $14,000 cost would throw most people living from paycheck to paycheck into bankruptcy.


135 posted on 07/18/2022 8:00:58 AM PDT by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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To: Hojczyk

“However, the family found out that there weren’t any batteries of that type available anymore because the Ford model is discontinued.”

Easy solution: go to AUTOZONE, since they have the common parts for all models of cars.


136 posted on 07/18/2022 8:05:08 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: thegagline

“An electric vehicle? The Second Law of Thermodynamics would like to have a word with you.”

You obviously are ignorant of Clean Energy Production. We produce the electricity from Unicorn Farts. But, there is an acute shortage of Unicorns. LOL

Entropy rules forever and thus in the end it will be a cold dark universe if it expands forever. If it is not forever expansive it will eventually collapse and enthalpy will rule for one instant of time and then entropy takes over for billions of years.


137 posted on 07/18/2022 8:17:56 AM PDT by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST)
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To: Hojczyk

Used electric cars have a value of 0$.


138 posted on 07/18/2022 8:22:18 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: wafflehouse

Or until it catches unquenchable fire and burns down their house and possibly the ones next to it.


139 posted on 07/18/2022 8:23:42 AM PDT by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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To: Pollard
When cheap used cars become unavailable, 10-20% of the population will no longer be able to drive.

That happened during the "Cash for Clunkers" program that Democrats did. Took cheap cars off the market. People recovered from that.

As for EV's, until recently this year, used Nissan Leaf cars were available for between $4,000 to $10,000. They still had enough battery strength to be useful, although between 50 to 80 miles of range before recharge. There are also companies that swap battery packs for old Leafs for about $5,000. Currently, these companies also do swaps of longer range systems into old Leafs (150-mile range 40KWH packs). The newer Leafs are 226-mile range with 60KWH packs. As the Leaf is the oldest production EV, more of those are available but other used EV's are available also.

140 posted on 07/18/2022 9:41:45 AM PDT by roadcat
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