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Russia has lost a third of its invasion force, U.K. intelligence says
MSN ^ | 5-15-22

Posted on 05/15/2022 1:25:57 PM PDT by nuconvert

United Kingdom military intelligence said Sunday that Russia has lost around one-third of the ground combat forces it deployed when the invasion began in February, Reuters and Al Jazeera report.

U.K. intelligence also concluded that Russia's offensive in the Donbas had "lost momentum and fallen significantly behind schedule" and that units engaged in the offensive were suffering from "low morale and reduced combat effectiveness."

Russian forces, the assessment concluded, are "unlikely to dramatically accelerate [their] rate of advance over the next 30 days."

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: russia; ukraine; war
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To: ought-six

Yes, of course.


41 posted on 05/15/2022 3:30:18 PM PDT by Republic_Venom (It's time for some Republic Venom!)
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To: nuconvert

U.K. intelligence. Now there’s a reputable source.


42 posted on 05/15/2022 3:45:54 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: jeffersondem

I was just being sarcastic; of course a one-third loss is devastating, especially when the loss can’t be replaced.


43 posted on 05/15/2022 3:47:41 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Republic_Venom

Corrupt or just flat out incompetent. What have they got right since the Cold War ended? Nothing.


44 posted on 05/15/2022 3:50:14 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Not really. A unit that has lost a third or more of it’s soldiers is severely handicapped and ceases to be an effective fighting force. Just combining units means that you throw men together that don’t know each other or how fight together.


45 posted on 05/15/2022 4:07:25 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: nuconvert

Figur3e 3-5 times as many injured and out of the fight as KIA. So estimates are 20k KIA and 50k-60k injured.


46 posted on 05/15/2022 4:09:59 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: nuconvert

LOL
UK intelligence is an oxymoron


47 posted on 05/15/2022 4:23:08 PM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: Blood of Tyrants

This can be and has been done regularly, combining depleted units. It was SOP at many points in the Napoleonic wars by all sides, in the US Civil War, in WWI (happened several times to a single French regiment, the 157th. Ref the superb unit history “The Verdun Regiment”).

And in WW2, this too was SOP in the Wehrmacht, where remnants and odds and ends were routinely made into “kampfgruppe” on all fronts.

It certainly can work, but it depends on the army doctrine, state of training, leadership, etc.


48 posted on 05/15/2022 4:26:58 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: nuconvert
Sure and Putin has blood cancer, thyroid cancer, stomach cancer, Parkinson's and dementia yet is still giving speeches and holding meetings.

And, on March 15, the same British media told use Russia only could continue to conduct the war for another 10 days before it ran out of supplies and ammunition.

Gee, maybe Ukrainians, the Biden regime and their allies in the media are lying.

49 posted on 05/15/2022 4:37:20 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: buwaya

:it depends on the army doctrine, state of training, leadership, etc.”

Can we agree that Russian army doctrine is not the greatest and their conscripts are not well trained and their leadership is iffy? Not to mention morale. There is word of mass disobedience and even some desertion.


50 posted on 05/15/2022 4:45:15 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: nuconvert

Zelensky should be going after the remainder of Putins Navy in the Black Sea. I still don’t see why he hasn’t attacked Sevastopol?


51 posted on 05/15/2022 5:10:20 PM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: Hieronymus

If the number of dead and wounded in a unit reach a high enough number, the remainder is useless as a fighting force.

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That’s may be the case.
However in this case, the unit can be pulled out and reconstituted. This seems to be happening there all the times. Both on the Russian and the Ukrainian side.
What it means, that it is only temporarily ineffectiveness.
Obviously dead are dead, wounded - depends on the wound - are either done or on temporary disability.
In the utmost cases (WWII comes to my mind), even soldiers with missing limbs could still be used in some fashion.


52 posted on 05/15/2022 5:13:05 PM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: NoLibZone

the check is Russian until agencies
***What? Some kind of unrecoverable typo...


53 posted on 05/15/2022 5:29:52 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: sarge83

They are absolutely not incompetent. They know exactly what they are doing. Everything we thought they’d do to the enemy, they are doing to us. The truth is to them…we are the enemy. The truth is our civil servants are the evil our history booking warned us about.


54 posted on 05/15/2022 5:40:03 PM PDT by Republic_Venom (It's time for some Republic Venom!)
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To: Republic_Venom

That is one way to look at it. If the US military had leadership worth a bucket of piss they would take some troops to the CIA/NSA/FBI, etc… and arrest the lot and put them on trial for mass murder after all the GI’s who have been sent to their deaths or maimed for life by these intel sleaze bags.


55 posted on 05/15/2022 7:00:16 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: AZJeep

The article that I am imperfectly recalling made the point that the peculiarities of the Russian military made reconstituting a force quickly after withdrawal particularly difficult.

The parachute regiment that was the focus of that article was expected to be out of commission for years.


56 posted on 05/15/2022 7:08:54 PM PDT by Hieronymus
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

You’re joking, right?


57 posted on 05/15/2022 7:30:33 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: nuconvert

Yes.


58 posted on 05/15/2022 9:38:34 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

“I was just being sarcastic . . .”

Sorry, I didn’t catch your drift.


59 posted on 05/16/2022 6:06:20 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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