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Proposed bill would shorten California workweek to 32 hours. Here’s what you need to know
LA Times ^ | APRIL 8, 2022 | HAYLEY SMITH

Posted on 04/10/2022 6:10:43 PM PDT by Salman

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To: skr

Crucially, the bill would also prohibit employers from reducing an employee’s regular rate of pay as a result of the reduced hourly workweek requirement.

So a 20% loss in productivity for a business. These politicians are insane.


41 posted on 04/10/2022 8:35:26 PM PDT by Flick Lives (The CDC. Brought to you by Pfizer)
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To: max americana

That’s not the business I am referring to. I am referring to companies who have to compete to stay in business. Compete on a national or work market level. Imagine what will happen will Boeing, Lockheed, and or Raytheon decide to pull chocks. Lockheed has already been downsizing it’s sunnyvale facilities and ops for the last 20 years. Large corporates are looking for reasons to leave and set up shop where the profit margins make more sense, where labor is lower, where facilities costs are lower. CA is giving them that excuse to leave.

The only reason companies like google still hang around the expensive Silicon Valley is because the can get lots of H1B visa types to live 10 to 15 per a two bedroom apartment so they split their salaries 10 to 15 ways to pay the 3500 to 5000 per month rents.

Gas at 5 to 7 bucks a gallon, rents through the roof, traffic a nightmare and roads falling apart. Gangs and crime. Pretty soon those Taco Bell’s, pollo locos, and McDonald’s will be all the illegals remaining can afford on their state welfare checks.


42 posted on 04/10/2022 8:40:48 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: Magnum44

Hello part time workers with no benefits. Progressives have no concept of supply and demand and taxes and how to leave California for Texas.


43 posted on 04/10/2022 8:46:04 PM PDT by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST )
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To: Salman
Basically a 10% raise for hourly employees.
44 posted on 04/10/2022 8:51:47 PM PDT by mcenedo (lying liberal media, our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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To: clearcarbon

That makes no sense


45 posted on 04/10/2022 9:14:13 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: TianaHighrider

It’s a crap idea. You spend that extra day off running errands and sleeping


46 posted on 04/10/2022 9:18:13 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

Wow, maybe we should live at work to better serve our overlords.</sarc>


47 posted on 04/10/2022 9:37:34 PM PDT by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: TianaHighrider

Ever work at a start up?


48 posted on 04/10/2022 9:38:54 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: mcenedo
Basically a 10% raise for hourly employees.

That's not how it ends up. We have a very good local restaurant that can't hire enough employees to run their original 7 AM to 9 PM hours. They have cut back to 7 AM to 3 PM and still have difficulty keeping it staffed.

The business can just cut operating hours and staff for when demand is optimal. The Indian restaurant is open 10 AM to 2 PM for lunch and 5 PM to 8 PM for dinner.

The "rate of pay" is minimum wage, so 32 hours @ minimum wage. If they need 40 or more to pay the rent, they will have to work for another employer. Having 2 or 3 jobs is very common for minimum wage earners. Especially where hours are limited to avoid paying benefits to full time employees. Thank Obamacare for that aberration in hiring practices.

49 posted on 04/10/2022 9:44:08 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Nifster

Employees and owners have separate responsibilities, schedules, and rewards.
A simple employee who has no ownership does not oew his ever waking moment and soul to the job.

And yes, I did work in a family startup before. The family works their tails off. But do not expect expect employees to do more than their set schedules. And Neither is their time off monitored.


50 posted on 04/10/2022 9:47:04 PM PDT by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: Salman

As one who lived in Berserkeley through the 80’s and half of the 90’s this is exactly what I saw genuine commies promoting. If there was a flyer stapled to a telephone pole that listed the platform of the Socialist Workers party or other assorted commie pukes this concept would be on the list.


51 posted on 04/10/2022 9:48:44 PM PDT by allblues (God is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but Satan is definitely a Democrat)
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To: Salman
The bill, AB 2932, would change the definition of a workweek from 40 hours to 32 hours for companies with more than 500 employees. A full workday would remain at eight hours, and employers would be required to provide overtime pay for employees working longer than four full days.

For commercial/private sector companies? Can they even do that??

California just keeps out-stupiding itself.

52 posted on 04/10/2022 9:51:49 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: Nifster
Ever work at a start up?

Yes.2 different ones. I replaced 2 EE, 2 C++ and 4 Java programmers at one startup. 8 AM to midnight M-Sat. Just 6 hours on Sun so I could wash my clothes and put a few rounds downrange.

The other startup was an internet payment provider. 14 hour days, 6 days a week. I had 38,000 options at 9 cents. I was nearly a cripple unable to open doors, shift my car or pick up a glass of water. I had to walk away from over a year of grueling effort. After I left, the stock soared to $26/share at IPO. Sad story, but I left still functional and ended up with an annual salary 4x where I started. The salary bump was more valuable than the IPO.

53 posted on 04/10/2022 9:54:19 PM PDT by Myrddin
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Many government people work their full 80 hours in a two week time, and get one day off every other week. So just an hour longer 8 days, and get a day off. It is really a great idea.

I work a 9/80 schedule and it’s great. I get things done on those off Fridays that I don’t have to use vacation to do such as eye/dental/doctor appointments, kitty vet checkups, getting my car serviced and early voting of there’s an election taking place.

The 9/80 schedule was one of the main reasons I took this job.

54 posted on 04/10/2022 9:58:37 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: DoughtyOne

If you work 40 hours at 20 bucks an hour, or 32 hours at 20, which is more money pre tax?

It’s a pay cut. Which now makes it harder to afford to live with its already bs prices. This’ll cause a lot more people moving out.

CA is making it harder and harder for me to actually be able to employ people in this state. By law since I have 5 people on w-2s, I have to gather 5 grown men and sit them through yearly sexual harassment training.


55 posted on 04/11/2022 1:51:52 AM PDT by SPDSHDW (You get what you let occur with no resistance. Everything Joepedo n' felons do is on your head.)
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To: Myrddin

After my first start up I always asked for money not stock. Told em if we did well I’d buy the stock legit

The hours you discribe are typical. Kind of like living at the job site


56 posted on 04/11/2022 2:45:48 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Salman

On one hand they say the poor can’t live on minimum wage but its okay to reduce the number of hours they can work? When was in my 20’s-30’s I worked 60 hours and a part time second job to make ends meet. Americans today are too spoiled for that I guess.


57 posted on 04/11/2022 3:21:27 AM PDT by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: Magnum44

Works for the ChiComs.


58 posted on 04/11/2022 3:29:22 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: SPDSHDW

The employer is the loser here.

Employees earning $1,000 per week will still earn $1,000 per week. In the future they would only work 32 hours for it.

This is what they have in mind.


59 posted on 04/11/2022 4:10:34 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: DuncanWaring

>Does the 20% cut in hours come with a 20% cut in pay?

It would for hourly employees.


60 posted on 04/11/2022 7:33:19 AM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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