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We Aren’t Just Watching the Decline of the Oscars. We’re Watching the End of the Movies.
NY Times ^ | 25 Mar2022 | Ross Douthat

Posted on 03/27/2022 11:00:25 AM PDT by Rummyfan

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To: 1Old Pro

I’ve watched The Godfather at least a dozen times and would rather watch it a dozen more than watch these trash a$$ movies that will be nominated for all kinds of awards.

I keep waiting for Top Gun 2 but I’m beginning to think they will never release it. Must not be woke enough for Hollywierd.


121 posted on 03/27/2022 2:27:05 PM PDT by bestrongbpositive
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To: HamiltonJay
Lord of the Rings - Good movie for what it was, but “picture of the year”? Not sure about that.

I believe it was the last of the trilogy, Return of the King that won the Oscar for Best Picture. I think a lot of people believed that the Oscar was given to that movie as a recognition of the entire trilogy. That someone had taken all three of the books and wove them into a coherent trilogy. Peter Jackson did a good job.

122 posted on 03/27/2022 2:39:40 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Dave Wright
The only movies on your list that I have seen is Belfast and Dune. I found Belfast a very touching movie. The young boy actor did a great job for one so young. I agree with you about Dune. I thought it was better than the previous Dune adaptation.

I think I am going to have to give Coda a try.

123 posted on 03/27/2022 2:45:44 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
Will Ferrell

Will Ferrell should have been your first clue.

124 posted on 03/27/2022 2:52:44 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: LibertarianLiz

They were reasonable movies for what they were but none of them, nor their entirety were “best picture” of their years.


125 posted on 03/27/2022 2:52:50 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Rummyfan; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; ...
The losers of that Aztec ball game got sacrificed an a bloody altar. :^) Just an idea.

126 posted on 03/27/2022 3:05:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Rummyfan
I am always pressing people to offer suggestions on the good movies they've seen, so just for the record:

Of the films nominated for Best Picture, I've already given CODA and Drive My Car as my two favorites. Belfast would probably rank third.

The Power of the Dog and Don't Look Up are the two woke agenda films. That doesn't necessarily make them bad movies and they may even have some fans here. But given the damage obnoxious wokeism is doing to the industry, any Academy voters who are thinking strategically should give them a pass because half the country will view a win as a deliberate thumb in the eye.

Since this discussion is broadening, as movie threads usually do:

Other 2021 films not in Oscar consideration that are worth viewing (IMHO): The Dig, I'm Your Man, After Yang, Stillwater, Free Guy, Old Henry, The Last Duel, Montana Story, and The Unlikeliest Convert: the Untold Story of C.S. Lewis. They are not all great movies but they are solid and watchable. They are not political and in terms of culture war tonalities, they are fair minded and balanced enough to give conservative themes a fair shake. I'm happy to recommend them to freepers.

After Yang and Montana Story only played festivals in 2021 (Cannes and TIFF respectively) and were only released to the public this year. If they get awards consideration, it will be in the 2022 cycle. After Yang already has my vote for Best Picture for 2022. It's Kogonada 2.0. Kogonada 3.0 is Pachinko, an eight part series just released on Apple; Kogonada directed four of the episodes. It's getting superb reviews and I expect it to get serious consideration for the 2022 tv awards.

Montana Story is a classic indie small movie, a character driven family drama with a notably spartan look and feel, partly because it was an extreme case of a COVID movie. The writer/director team was in the middle of something else which they shelved; they asked themselves whether they were just going to sit there until The Great God Fauci gave the all clear, or try to do something. They had no story and no money. They noodled for an idea, wrote Montana Story in about five weeks from scratch, produced it on an ultra low budget, and shot it with minimal cast and crew under strict lockdown rules. It's well written with abolutely no frills, and it's beautifully acted. Bleeker Street is releasing it in May. I will nominate it for Best COVID Movie.

Coming out of Sundance, I'll also mention Emily the Criminal, Watcher and Dual for 2022. These are not great movies but they are solid, well crafted and acted. Many here will enjoy them.

Looking back a few years: On the Rocks, Dear Comrades!, Greyhound, Little Women, Straight Up (this will surprise you, but a fun movie that brings some order out of moral chaos), Chernobyl, Tolkien, The Professor and the Madman, Mr. Jones, Balloon, Ashes in the Snow, Operation Finale, Support the Girls, Leave no Trace, Death of Stalin, Lady Bird, Gifted, First They Killed My Father, and Columbus. That takes me through 2017. I list them here for the "nuke Hollywood from orbit" folks.

Those are just idiosyncratic personal favorites, but I can make an argument that all of them are culturally conservative films. Some are U.S. Some are foreign. I'm not sure that really makes much of a difference.

So to all: what has "Hollywood" done for YOU lately? I don't care if you watched something in the theater or at home, but what good films have you seen that are relatively new?

127 posted on 03/27/2022 3:14:17 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: Rummyfan

The movies were ruined by groupthink. We need lots of people who think differently with lots of imagination to get new and exciting material. Movies are usually boring unartful wokey retreads or comic book silliness redoing the original to be politically correct.

There is no challenge or different ideas anymore. It is not acceptable to think outside allowable thought.


128 posted on 03/27/2022 3:16:02 PM PDT by dforest
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To: sphinx

Have never heard of CODA. I will check it out.


129 posted on 03/27/2022 3:16:53 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Suppo)
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To: jmacusa

Colonel Saito: You are defeated but you have no shame. You endure but you have no courage.


130 posted on 03/27/2022 3:18:02 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Suppo)
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To: Dave Wright
Nightmare Alley - Actually an adaptation of the 1947 version with Tyrone Power. Still a very interesting and nightmarish descent into the dark world of carnies and con men.

Man, that flick was just too dark.

131 posted on 03/27/2022 3:21:48 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Suppo)
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To: skimbell

I just finished watching it. It was Great. Thanks for the suggestion FRiend. I like Robert Mitchum as an actor. I suppose because he was only 4 years older than my Grandfather(who served in WWII in the pacific as a marine), and died the same year as my Grandfather.


132 posted on 03/27/2022 3:21:57 PM PDT by EvilCapitalist (I pledge allegiance to Hedy Lamarr)
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To: Dave Wright
I saw two flicks in the theater in the last eighteen months. My daughter wanted to see DUNE so I tagged along. It was very well done and really had to be seen on the big screen to be truly appreciated.

The other was No Time to Die. I just wanted to see it as it is the last of the Daniel Craig Bond flicks. Very well done but about an hour too long and a run-of-the-mill super villain.

133 posted on 03/27/2022 3:25:05 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Suppo)
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To: SamAdams76
I saw "The Big Sleep" about a week ago featuring Lauren Bacall and Humphrey Bogart.

Directed by Howard Hawks, it's a classic.

134 posted on 03/27/2022 3:26:32 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Suppo)
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To: your other brother
Shakespeare today would be writing graphic novels about queer superheroes from a land run by tough women in pants.

Good point.

135 posted on 03/27/2022 3:28:50 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Suppo)
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To: P.O.E.

Hitler... has only good one b*ll....

And so on....


136 posted on 03/27/2022 3:31:03 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Suppo)
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To: HamiltonJay
Every Industry has awards, and I have no issue if the folks who make films want to get together and circle jerk on each other once a year to celebrate their industry, any more than any other industry. However, why the hell should I care? I don’t care who is crowned Plumber of the year... or what designer his wife war that night to the ballroom of some Hyatt Hotel for the dinner and awards that night, why do they think I give a care about this?? Why should I?

The Oscars originated when the Hollywood founders and powers-that-were, like Sam Goldwyn and Louis B Mayer, realized that if they gave their artist employees awards they could probably get away with paying them less. Then the PR aspect was taken advantage of too, so the public could see their screen idols in a non-movie setting. They grew from that....

137 posted on 03/27/2022 3:35:30 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Suppo)
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To: jmacusa
The Japs however were some brutal bastards.

Approximately one POW or civilian-recruited worker (i.e. slave) died for every hundred meters of track that was laid on the Thailand-Burma railroad.

For a very good detailing of that work and ordeal I suggest James Hornfischer's Ship of Ghosts.

138 posted on 03/27/2022 3:43:16 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Suppo)
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To: jmacusa
I saw stats once that said 1% of Allied prisoners held captive by the Germans died in captivity.

We had a lot of German POWs. The Germans had a lot of Allied POWs (I will exclude Russians and Slavs from that category). It was to each's interest that the POWs be treated humanely.

We did not really take many Japanese POWs until very late in the Pacific War. They just didn't generally surrender. And by their bushido code, those soldiers / Marines / sailors / airmen that they captured had shamed themselves and were treated yes, brutally.

I watched Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo again last week... One thing it leaves out was the terrible and cruel brutal sadistic reprisals taken against the Chinese population for helping our guys get out of China.

139 posted on 03/27/2022 3:50:09 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Suppo)
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To: dfwgator
That village was Okinawa. That is what convinced the US that dropping the bomb was the only way to get Japan to surrender.

Our projected casualties for an invasion of Japan were one million. I would say Japanese casualties would have been ten times that. They were preparing women and children to fight using bamboo spears.

140 posted on 03/27/2022 3:53:12 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Suppo)
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