Posted on 12/21/2021 11:37:14 AM PST by BusterDog
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (WICS) — A Satanic holiday display has made a reappearance under the Illinois State Capitol dome.
Members of the Satanic Temple of Illinois came to Springfield, Ill. Monday to install a Satanic display in the rotunda. The installation depicts the deity Baphomet as a baby. Satanic Temple members said that the display is meant to represent plurality, unity, compassion, and empathy, and described it as "a display of positive values."
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Nah. We’re not stupid.
It represents the enemy. Evil.
I can see that. But the Founding angle is of interest.
"If you would go so far as to look at the history, it becomes clear that the intent was that the United States was a Christian nation, and little to no thought was given to seeing our government as anything but a Christian government."
This sort of thing is a master stroke of the progressives manipulation of history over the last 120 years. What progressives have done is successfully painted a false choice of only two types. Either you have some hard core theocratic religious government, or you have something way on the other side that's a secularized government which engages in throwing the religious into concentration camps.
What our Founders had in mind was a non-sectarian government. As this document makes all but irrefutable. There are plenty of writings of the Founders which make clear that our government was not Founded on the Christian Religion - of course not, they didn't give us a theocracy. But it was Founded on Judeo-Christian Principles, which is the primary target that progressives want to muddy up. Even the word "nonsectarian" has pollution in it that didn't exist some centuries ago, but it has escaped much of the steep propaganda that other words have faced.
Which, tangentially, is why the progressives re-defined the word "deist". A deist today is practically indistinguishable from an atheist. To the Founders though, it carried quite a deep reverence for God. Just not any one sect above another.
Historians (pre-progressivism) like Richard Frothingham Jr. document this with incredible clarity (See: Rise of the Republic) - the Christian nature of the country's and government's roots. Circa Roger Williams' time or Jefferson's time, the Wall of Separation between church and state was a resoundingly pro-Christian concept rooted in that very non-sectarianism as well as Judeo-Christian Principles. It wasn't until Everson that a new wall was constructed and weaponized.
The amount of damage that progressivism has done is, well, let's just say it gets bigger every time I look at it.
There are a lot of things that the Founders gave us that I am sad to say I don't see many of us fighting to reclaim any time soon. It's only been 120 years, what's another few decades?
Do better than what?
Unlike a nativity scene, a tree is not an explicitly Christian symbol. Whereas other religions are allowed their explicitly religious symbols on public land.
You are right. I know of someone who has gotten into this and just gets deeper and deeper. Only God can pull her out. She’s obsessed.
The US government was intended to be Christian, but "non denominational". The framers of the US Constitution utilized the word "religion" with the meaning we use for "denomination." This topic is as you have noticed, a prime example of historical malfeasance.
In 1776 there were official state religions in place in various states. In others, there wasn't an "official" religion, but most of the state adhered to some denomination or other.
To give an example of what I mean, (If I remember correctly) Maryland was Catholic, Virginia was Anglican, Pennsylvania was Quaker, and Massachusetts retained much of it's Puritan influence.
Were the individual state to get into a squabbling match over religious doctrine, it would have blown the coalition apart and made it unable to oppose England with a United front. In those days people took their religion very seriously, and if they thought they would be seen as somehow inferior to other Americans because of their religion, they would have never stood for it.
This is why the founders walked this tightrope of non denominationalism. This is why they rejected religious tests for office. To allow such things would have alienated states they badly needed to hold the coalition together. They needed to keep the Union together at this time because there was always the threat England would reabsorb dissident colonies. (Massachusetts and Connecticut threatened to go back in 1814.)
But these necessities in no way implied that the government would be hostile to religion and especially hostile to Christianity. That was not the original intent at all.
The amount of damage that progressivism has done is, well, let's just say it gets bigger every time I look at it.
And most of it was done using the tool of the 14th amendment.
Satanic Temple members said that the display is meant to represent plurality, unity, compassion, and empathy, and described it as “a display of positive values.”
Yeah. Sure. Of Course. Satanists don’t even believe in Satan.
Put a sign on it that says “Baby Mohammed “ and they will remove the display immediately.
"And most of it was done using the tool of the 14th amendment."
According to one freeper, "these are lies". Know who might have said that?
I think that if you had read what I have read and with the same level of understanding, we likely wouldn't disagree on a lot of other subjects.
According to one freeper, "these are lies". Know who might have said that?
In context, that was said regarding the claim by the Satanists that they were trying to promote "unity etc."
They know fully well they aren't doing this to promote unity. They are doing it to promote discord and to damage the existing social structure.
That is why I said their statement is a lie.
The point is, you should keep on saying that their statements are lies. That is all that they offer.
You win FR for today!
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