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BOMBSHELL: In court filing, Facebook admits ‘fact checks’ are nothing more than opinion
Watts Up With That? ^ | Dec 9, 2021 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 12/10/2021 7:02:52 AM PST by hamburger hill

As we have previously reported, journalist John Stossel is suing Facebook after Facebook’s ‘fact checkers’ labeled climate change information that Stossel posted as “false and misleading”. In the middle of all this is the nefarious website “Climate Feedback” which has a bunch of climate zealots that write up what they claim are “fact checks” for articles, videos, and news stories they disagree with.

Facebook just blew the “fact check” claim right out of the water in court.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigtech; censorship; facebook; factcheck; freespeech; internet; searchworks; socialmedia; stossel; technotyranny
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To: hamburger hill

What bothers me are the numbers of people that didn’t realize this when they appeared.

If the “free press” is doing their job then they’re not necessary. It was only once large numbers began to distrust them that they were created.

Why anyone would think that they would be anything other than another layer of the same type of media is beyond me....just because they have “fact” in the name? Seriously?

Of course they’re nothing but opinions....just include the ‘facts’ you want, omit those you don’t like, and come to a predetermined conclusion - give a simple label “true/false/etc.” and people don’t even read the text.


21 posted on 12/10/2021 7:33:41 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Spok

More like Marxist opinions are now more important than facts.


22 posted on 12/10/2021 7:35:31 AM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: hamburger hill

They are now officially “Opinion Checks” rather than fact checks.


23 posted on 12/10/2021 7:45:50 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: semimojo

FB is saying someone else has called it false
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A distinction without a difference.

Wassup?

Allen still sleeping ?

( /-)

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24 posted on 12/10/2021 7:49:18 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: hamburger hill

“Facebook admits ‘fact checks’ are nothing more than opinion”


Well, no shit, Sherlock! Who didn’t already know this?

I am beyond disgusted with how FascistBook is not held accountable for its CLEAR editorial policy - they should be able to be sued, like any other publisher with an editorial function. It is ***NOT*** an impartial aggregator of materials posted by others, which is what’s required for FascistBook to be immune from suits for what appears on its site.


25 posted on 12/10/2021 8:06:22 AM PST by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: cuz1961
A distinction without a difference.

Hardly. Saying someone else has deemed it false is an undeniable fact and not defamation.

26 posted on 12/10/2021 8:10:46 AM PST by semimojo
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FR rule number 799: Anything labeled "Bombshell" probably isn't.

27 posted on 12/10/2021 8:10:54 AM PST by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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To: Mr.Unique

Yup—crying wolf is not a good strategy—because someday the wolf really will appear...and everybody will ignore it.


28 posted on 12/10/2021 8:13:53 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cuz1961
FB is saying someone else has called it false

No, they are claiming that the "fact checks" were never meant taken as assertions of objective fact, but are something like the opinion section of a newspaper, and thus not subject to charges of libel.

Now obviously this is complete nonsense. If something labeled "fact check" is not meant to be taken as an assertion of an objective fact subject to slander or libel charges then what the heck is?

29 posted on 12/10/2021 8:22:24 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: hamburger hill

Always wondered if they FCed democrat post. We know there would definetly be fake/lies there.


30 posted on 12/10/2021 8:24:27 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U
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To: semimojo

Hardly. Saying someone else has deemed it false is an undeniable fact and not defamation.
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Wow that’s some PhD level weaseling right there boy .

/-)

May I call you allen-2 ?


31 posted on 12/10/2021 8:34:24 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: cuz1961
Wow that’s some PhD level weaseling right there boy.

You really don't know much about our legal system, do you?

32 posted on 12/10/2021 8:50:57 AM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo

It’s is not surprising that in every single instance you end up coming down on the side of the swamp. Piss off you troll.


33 posted on 12/10/2021 8:56:14 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: semimojo

Wow that’s some PhD level weaseling right there boy.
You really don’t know much about our legal system, do you?
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FB is saying someone else has called it false
No, they are claiming that the “fact checks” were never meant taken as assertions of objective fact, but are something like the opinion section of a newspaper, and thus not subject to charges of libel.

Now obviously this is complete nonsense. If something labeled “fact check” is not meant to be taken as an assertion of an objective fact subject to slander or libel charges then what the heck is?

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No snark for the bear that done whupped your weasel ?

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I know weaseling when I see it.

May I call you allen-2 ?

If you say no , I wont .

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34 posted on 12/10/2021 8:59:22 AM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: hamburger hill

Isn’t it strange how if you offer an opinion as fact under oath in court, how that opinion may change?


35 posted on 12/10/2021 9:04:56 AM PST by oldtech
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To: semimojo

When FB has partnered with these 3rd party groups and acts on thier behalf by accepting these opinions as fact then FB employees manually flag such articles posted by FB members and applies labels such as “false news” “partly false” or manually blocks the links to news articles like articles about hunter bidens laptop...they are acting in an editorial capacity by deciding what content is allowed then taking actions to suppress said content...Facebook bots require manual input from programmers to specify what content to flag or block.

These are not the actions of 3rd parties.

That being said...its private property...they can block or label what they chose...

My issue is more about truth in advertising...FB Bill’s itself as the public square and encourages the free exchange of ideals and opinions...

But it practice that is clearly false.


36 posted on 12/10/2021 9:14:52 AM PST by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: hamburger hill

37 posted on 12/10/2021 9:16:56 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: semimojo
You need to learn to think.

Fascistbook put the label on it.

It is now their label because they applied it even if it was written by some other branch of FascistsInc.

Your attempt to confuse the issue and protect your fellow fascists is noted as is your failure.

38 posted on 12/10/2021 9:17:14 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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To: Crim
When FB has partnered with these 3rd party groups and acts on thier behalf...

Good point.

My issue is more about truth in advertising...

Think the issue goes further than truth in advertising. Facebook should be subject to libel claims for their fact checks just like a newspaper is. They may be able to argue in particular cases there is no malice or that there is no damage or that their fact check was true, but its nonsense for them to argue that their fact check is not subject to libel because its presented as a subjective opinion. If this were allowed for "fact checks" its difficult to see when it would not apply to anything printed at all.

39 posted on 12/10/2021 9:32:18 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: hamburger hill

Reason #577,448,390 to avoid Fake Book.


40 posted on 12/10/2021 9:47:27 AM PST by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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