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California may curtail pre-1914 water rights
Western Farm Press ^ | 07/28/2021 | Tim Hearden

Posted on 08/04/2021 11:57:27 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

California's State Water Resources Control Board has signaled it may soon approve a drought emergency regulation curtailing diversions within the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta region for landowners with pre-1914 water rights -- the most senior of rights in the state.

The board will consider during its Aug. 3-4 meeting issuing the notices throughout the vast Delta watershed to protect water supplies necessary to meet human health and safety needs, preserve stored water needed to prevent salinity from the ocean from intruding into the Delta and to minimize impacts to fish and wildlife, according to state officials.

The regulation would curtail all pre-1914 appropriative water rights in the San Joaquin River watershed, and would affect diverters in the Sacramento River watershed with a priority date of 1883 or later, the California Cattlemen's Association explained in a bulletin to members Some water rights with earlier priority dates may also be curtailed within certain Sacramento River tributaries, according to the CCA.

The proposed regulation covers around 5,000 users in the Delta area, with exemptions only for human health and safety and non-consumptive uses. A majority of growers within the Delta itself have pre-1914 rights and have been managing to bring their crops to harvest.

(Excerpt) Read more at farmprogress.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; drought; famine; water
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Next they will put meters on private wells with remote shut-off capability.


21 posted on 08/04/2021 12:27:58 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the left, truth is right-wing extremism.⭐⭐)
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To: Trinity5

https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/statistics/


22 posted on 08/04/2021 12:32:40 PM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Time for some investigative reporting.
How many swimming pools are in the LA area? Hollywood? Beverly Hills?
How many are full?
Do you think it’s fair for farmers to have to give up their livelihood when rich Angelenos won’t help at all?


23 posted on 08/04/2021 12:33:38 PM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: ZOOKER

“Do you think it’s fair for farmers to have to give up their livelihood when rich Angelenos won’t help at all?”

AG consumes 78% of all water delivered in CA.


24 posted on 08/04/2021 12:35:15 PM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

seems to me that this would be an illegal takings if the state does not pay compensation ...

in Colorado, such illegal takings of water ownership couldn’t happen, except perhaps unless the State constitution was amended (and even then it would be extremely doubtful), because Colorado water ownership has been enshrined in the Colorado constitution and Colorado law, going all the way back to the Colorado territorial charter ...

water ownership in Colorado is just as much a private property right as is the ownership of real estate and simply can not be taken by fiat by some state board waving some magic fascist wand ...


25 posted on 08/04/2021 12:37:05 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

They are committing suicide, and going to take the whole country down with them.


26 posted on 08/04/2021 12:37:37 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Since a significant fraction of California’s population isn’t in the country legally, why not just have the other Western states abrogate the Colorado River Compact?

That water was allocated based on citizen population. Depriving the other Western states of water to hydrate non-citizens wasn’t part of the deal.

So the real debate is whether California should get any water at all from the surrounding states that have actual Americans living in them.


27 posted on 08/04/2021 12:42:23 PM PDT by Regulator (It's Fraud, Jim)
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To: hinckley buzzard

LOL +1


28 posted on 08/04/2021 12:55:42 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Honest GOP can't use legal means because Dems use illegal ones (threats). The Robert Creamer Party! )
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To: Jan_Sobieski

California can dry up and blow away


29 posted on 08/04/2021 12:56:24 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Disambiguator
California has mostly been in a “drought” for as long as I remember. They still are only because someone or someones like it that way.

"Through studies of tree rings, sediment and other natural evidence, researchers have documented multiple droughts in California that lasted 10 or 20 years in a row during the past 1,000 years — compared to the mere three-year duration of the current dry spell. The two most severe megadroughts make the Dust Bowl of the 1930s look tame: a 240-year-long drought that started in 850 and, 50 years after the conclusion of that one, another that stretched at least 180 years.

“We continue to run California as if the longest drought we are ever going to encounter is about seven years,” said Scott Stine, a professor of geography and environmental studies at Cal State East Bay. “We’re living in a dream world.”

Stine, who has spent decades studying tree stumps in Mono Lake, Tenaya Lake, the Walker River and other parts of the Sierra Nevada, said that the past century has been among the wettest of the last 7,000 years.

We coincidentally populated that area with 10s of millions of people and farmland not realizing it was usually much more arid. Farming will need to figure out how to get the water they need with turning the rivers into trickles, or destroying the aquifers. Israelis are making amazing progress with desalinization. It's an excellent use for 'surplus' green energy.

30 posted on 08/04/2021 12:58:01 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: BBQToadRibs2

Florida
Mexico
garden
Ga peaches


31 posted on 08/04/2021 1:01:16 PM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Like BLM, Joe Biden is a Domestic Enemy )
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Not only food, but PG&E is really worried that reservoir water levels will soon fall below the intake structures and hydro power will be cut off. Water to the turbines does not come out of the bottom of the reservoir — the water inlet is higher up.

But, not to worry...windmills and solar cells will save the day!


32 posted on 08/04/2021 1:03:46 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Criminal democrats kill babies. Do you think anything else is a problem for them?” ~ joma89)
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To: Disambiguator

California is mostly desert. Climate change would mean more rain


33 posted on 08/04/2021 1:05:12 PM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Like BLM, Joe Biden is a Domestic Enemy )
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Kill the bullet train to nowhere and use the money to build desalinization plants
on an emergency schedule.


34 posted on 08/04/2021 1:06:28 PM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

My grandfather (1880-1959) was first a ditch rider, then the canal superintendent, for an irrigation canal in the Boise valley in Idaho circa 1910-1950. He rode the canal with a 30.30 Winchester, both for four-legged “varmints” who could dig into the canal bank and cause a “blowout” and for water-stealing two-legged “varmints.” Water rights in the West are a huge deal.


35 posted on 08/04/2021 1:08:42 PM PDT by hadrian
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To: Jan_Sobieski

California often has too much solar and wind power during hot summer days, while having none on cold winter days and of course, at night.

With the “free” and “renewable” power during the summer, which is often wasted because it can’t be stored - why don’t they instead use that excess energy to run ocean-water desalinization plants, the product of which also would be in highest demand at the same time.


36 posted on 08/04/2021 1:10:40 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Regulator
why not just have the other Western states abrogate the Colorado River Compact?

I'm always in favor of states doing their own thing and looking out for themselves. That was the nature of America's original Federalism.

37 posted on 08/04/2021 1:12:22 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Jan_Sobieski

A CO state Senator once told me “This is the west, whiskey’s for drinkin’ and water’s for fightn’ over”


38 posted on 08/04/2021 1:21:08 PM PDT by JMJJR (Where We Go One We Go All)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Yep, I posted the articles by Katy Grimes on this issue, This will be interesting times coming up ahead, hopefully most here started making preparations when Barry the Muslim got elected.


39 posted on 08/04/2021 1:31:31 PM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

California agriculture is $50 billion a year, and those voters are conservative.
Their industry will be destroyed.


40 posted on 08/04/2021 1:52:59 PM PDT by Pollster1 (America is no longer in Claire Wolfe's "awkward stage")
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