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Mass vaccination during pandemic historical blunder: Nobel laureate
https://telanganatoday.com/ ^ | 25th May 2021 | IANS

Posted on 07/30/2021 7:38:29 PM PDT by fr_freak

New Delhi: French virologist and Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier called mass vaccination against the coronavirus during the pandemic “unthinkable” and a historical blunder that is “creating the variants” and leading to deaths from the disease, LifeSite News reported.

“It”s an enormous mistake, isn’t it? A scientific error as well as a medical error. It is an unacceptable mistake,” Montagnier said in an interview translated and published by the RAIR Foundation US.

“The history books will show that, because it is the vaccination that is creating the variants,” the report said. Many epidemiologists know it and are “silent” about the problem known as “antibody-dependent enhancement,” Montagnier said.

(Excerpt) Read more at telanganatoday.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ade; covid; covid19; covidbs; echochamber; everheardofmeasles; everheardofmumps; everheardofpolio; luc; lucmontagnier; massvaccination; montagnier; pandemic; vaccine; vaccines; variants
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To: fr_freak

BBC reporter, Tom Bateman, in Israel. re young hesitant to be vaccinated, he says he senses that, as an INDUSTRY grows around the pandemic, cynicism is growing:

41min38sec to 42min39sec:

AUDIO: 30 July: BBC Newshour
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w172xv56sxwwn0m


21 posted on 07/30/2021 8:37:19 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: ocrp1982

He defines ‘useful idjit’


22 posted on 07/30/2021 8:39:46 PM PDT by A strike (Barr to Gitmo, Roberts to Florence supermax, HerrDoktor FauxiGates to TerreHaute)
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To: palmer

“I simply post facts. Really? What “facts” did you post? You posted NO “facts”. You posted an opinion. Your opinion. Do you know what is said about opinions? Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and they stink.
If you are going to attempt to refute the opinions of men of distinction, you need to do so with relevanant education, experience, and detailed documentation backing up your statements. Otherwise, your words are worthless nonsense with nothing to back them up. Without a background in the subject or as a substitute, detailed references, your opinion is worthless and a waste of space.


23 posted on 07/30/2021 8:40:19 PM PDT by ocrp1982 ( Bibicly)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

...but
Since you put
It That Way.


24 posted on 07/30/2021 8:45:20 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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To: fr_freak

Vax bump for later....


25 posted on 07/30/2021 8:47:55 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: ocrp1982
The delta variant (B. 1.617. 2)came from unvaccinated people in India in early Feb or earlier. It evades vaccines and natural immuity. It was not created by vaccines it simply ignores vaccines.
26 posted on 07/30/2021 8:58:20 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: palmer

India started vaccinations in Jan. Delta appeared in Feb.


27 posted on 07/30/2021 9:05:21 PM PDT by onceone (0311, K Co., 3/5 1st Mar Div, RVN '68)
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To: palmer

I simply post facts.


Except your first sentence in this thread which is a claim without an argument.


28 posted on 07/30/2021 9:07:35 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: HollyB

That’s incorrect. For the variant it was designed for, Pfizer blocks 94% of asymptomatic infections and 97% of symptomatic infections. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/11/pfizer-covid-vaccine-blocks-94percent-of-asymptomatic-infections-and-97percent-of-symptomatic-cases-in-israeli-study.html

There’s conflicting data about how effective the vaccines are at blocking infections in the Delta variant, with estimates anywhere from 39% to 90%. But it’s still blocking a certain level of infections despite the fact that the Delta variant includes structural changes in the protein targeted by the vaccines which render previous antibodies less effective. This is also a problem for people previously infected with COVID-19. Roughly 1 in 6,000 who already had COVID-19 are getting infected with the Delta variant. Thankfully, most of those infections appear to be milder than the first round those people had.


29 posted on 07/30/2021 9:08:30 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“And the history books in 50 years or so are going to be very interesting indeed.”

You really think there will be actual true history to read in 50 years? They will probably have torn down the Fauci statues by then.


30 posted on 07/30/2021 9:10:45 PM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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To: onceone

You scrambled his “brain” with that fact.


31 posted on 07/30/2021 9:12:44 PM PDT by tatown
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To: onceone

India has and continues to export the vast majority of the vaccine doses they produce. Very few have gotten to people there. And most of those have gone to people who are connected and/or have money. As of July 16th, India only had about 6% of their population fully vaccinated. And early ramp-up was very slow. They didn’t even reach 1 million doses a day until the end of March. In February, it was a tiny fraction of a percent who had been vaccinated.


32 posted on 07/30/2021 9:13:26 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Well when you put it that way...😯


33 posted on 07/30/2021 9:16:44 PM PDT by kelly4c
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

From Wikipedia “India is the second most populated country in the world with nearly a fifth of the world’s population. According to the 2019 revision of the World Population Prospects[6][7] the population stood at 1,352,642,280.”

Just saying little % can be big numbers.


34 posted on 07/30/2021 9:21:49 PM PDT by onceone (0311, K Co., 3/5 1st Mar Div, RVN '68)
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To: Big Red Badger

ZOMBIES!!!!!


35 posted on 07/30/2021 9:23:26 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: palmer; ocrp1982

Could you give some citations for your “facts”?


36 posted on 07/30/2021 9:26:17 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: palmer

“The delta variant (B. 1.617. 2)came from unvaccinated people in India in early Feb or earlier.” Really? And, what is the source for this info? The CDC? The WHO? And, how does this validate the use of the Jab? How does this refute the many researchers who are warning against the use of these “vaccines”?
Researchers with years of experience with these substances that are warning people against them?
What do men like the originator of mRNA research have to gain by warning people against the use of those substances? Going so far as to call them POISON?
And, subjecting themselves to being Ostracized? Yet, they issue warnings against their use regardless of the personal cost to their reputations.


37 posted on 07/30/2021 9:26:48 PM PDT by ocrp1982 ( Bibicly)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

You may find this helpful

https://youtu.be/e2Ue85EV2Us


38 posted on 07/30/2021 9:54:20 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Is it technically a vaccine tho?


39 posted on 07/30/2021 9:55:13 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: palmer

“… a historical blunder that is “creating the variants”
First of all, that’s not true. The Delta was created in unvaxed India in early Feb. Second, the variants are a good thing. We need more variants...”

******
You are incorrect. Last May on WarRoom, Dave Ramaswamy was on and said the reason India was having such a terrible covid outbreak is because this year they stopped taking the HCQ that Indians take routinely. They instead focused on the vaccines. That’s what made Covid spike and we are seeing that now with the vaxxed here carrying a high viral load, possibly due to ADE. That and the southern border wide open.

A close friend of mine has many friends in India, she has traveled there often for years, and confirmed this as well. She told me she knew immediately why Covid spiked there when they focused on the so called vaccines.


40 posted on 07/31/2021 12:21:39 AM PDT by BlueHorseShoe
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