Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Leaked CDC report: Delta variant as contagious as chickenpox
https://www.kiro7.com ^ | July 30, 2021 at 4:35 am PDT | By Natalie Dreier, Cox Media Group National Content Desk

Posted on 07/30/2021 8:45:46 AM PDT by Red Badger

As states battle a surge of the COVID-19 delta variant, an internal document from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has been leaked that shows that the variant spreads from fully vaccinated people at the same rate as unvaccinated people.

CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky confirmed the authenticity of the document, which is a slide presentation, CNN and The Washington Post reported.

The document states that officials must “acknowledge the war has changed,” the Post reported.

“I think people need to understand that we’re not crying wolf here. This is serious,” Walensky told CNN.

“It’s one of the most transmissible viruses we know about. Measles, chickenpox, this — they’re all up there,” Walensky added.

The New York Times reported that the document states the delta variant is more transmissible than MERS, SARS, Ebola, a common cold, seasonal flu and smallpox and is as contagious as chickenpox.

The leak comes as the CDC reversed course earlier this week and now, once again, recommends that fully vaccinated people wear masks indoors in areas of the country where transmission is high, CNN reported.

The document shows that the agency knows it must get a new message out to the public that pushes vaccination as the best defense.

Officials say the delta variant is acting like a different novel virus that is moving faster than Ebola or even a cold, The Washington Post reported.

The document uses unpublished data and outside studies that officials say show that even vaccinated people are able to spread the virus as if they were unvaccinated and that they have similar delta variant viral loads as those who are not vaccinated, the Post reported.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: chickenpox; chinavirus; deltavariant; fakenews
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-96 next last
To: Carl Vehse
The epsilon variant is next. But just wait until the chi variant comes out.

Oh, and the Pi variant will be 3.14 times as contagious!

41 posted on 07/30/2021 9:21:54 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Fury
What does that mean - “as contagious as chicken pox” - practically speaking?

Varicella (chicken pox) is the prototype of "most infectious".

There is a famous case where a child on the 12th floor of a children's hospital, confined to his room, caught it from a child on the third floor, proven to be identical by molecular analysis.

Now, I read this on Twitter at 2 AM and I was up all night.

But I seriously doubt they have data that shows identity with varicella for transmissibility, and, as others have pointed out, "planted" is probably more correct than "leaked".

42 posted on 07/30/2021 9:23:00 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

“I think people need to understand that we’re not crying wolf here. This is serious,” Walensky told CNN.”

Go away, you lie and you are anything but credible.


43 posted on 07/30/2021 9:24:54 AM PDT by billyboy15
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Right Brother
This super contagion should be actually called the “mid-term” variant

I doubt that this is about the 2022 elections.

These people have nothing to fear from Republicans, and they know it.

44 posted on 07/30/2021 9:25:22 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: ScaniaBoy

RE: where the Indian variant is taking over, the number of hospitalizations, ICU-patients and deaths have not increased.

Speaking of India, what’s happening over there?

It seemed to have peaked there at the end of May and declined.


45 posted on 07/30/2021 9:27:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

Internal CDC Doc. Outlines Increased Danger Of Delta Variant: WaPo [7 minute video and my notes on the content]

7/30/2021, 5:39:34 AM · by ransomnote · 

46 posted on 07/30/2021 9:27:52 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger
“I think people need to understand that we’re not crying wolf here."

After the last eighteen months, you (CDC) have no credibility

47 posted on 07/30/2021 9:29:15 AM PDT by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, siate armati!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diogenesis

Google scrubbers missed this

Better mak a copy


48 posted on 07/30/2021 9:35:46 AM PDT by thinden ( build the wall)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: billyboy15

If they were serious they would seal the border—no illegal aliens.

That is absolute proof they are lying.


49 posted on 07/30/2021 9:36:06 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: cuban leaf
But it’s not that deadly. I’d rather get it than the flu.

I agree. My case was not bad at all and OTC self-medication seemed to help me. My wife's case was worse, but still not very bad.

I am thinking the level of contagion should be looked at as a plus. If it spreads so fast, I should burn itself out in no time. Our government is acting as if it has bad intentions all the way around . . . nothing new about that.

50 posted on 07/30/2021 9:37:43 AM PDT by RatRipper ( Democrats and socialists are vile liars, thdieves and murderers - enemies of good and America.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

If they dont want us to think they are crying wolf then they shouldn’t have cried wolf so often.


51 posted on 07/30/2021 9:37:55 AM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

I’m not buying this. I had a guy who goes to my Church who tested positive, yet his Wife tested negative.


52 posted on 07/30/2021 9:38:19 AM PDT by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

The daily cases in India are now down to below 45 000 compared to a peak of more than 400 000 per day in early May. The mortality is less than 650/day compared to a peak of 5000/day.


53 posted on 07/30/2021 9:38:28 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: toast

Well, there is a shingles vaccine.


54 posted on 07/30/2021 9:39:02 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: JonPreston
to ride out the illness at home with loved ones.

And if I were going to die from it, as some people assure me I would most certainly do should I catch the COOF, I'd rather do it at home than in a hospital.

55 posted on 07/30/2021 9:39:31 AM PDT by Turbo Pig ('to close with and destroy the enemy")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

My Wife has also had a bad sinus infection for a couple weeks. Went to the ER when it first started and they tested her for Covid. Negative. The nurse told us there is no separate test for the Delta variant. You’re either positive or negative. There’s no way to know if it’s regular Covid or Delta.


56 posted on 07/30/2021 9:41:12 AM PDT by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Turbo Pig

Absolutely. Home care with family is the way to go. Just look at the nursing home causalities for confirmation.


57 posted on 07/30/2021 9:44:48 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger
It's all about controlling the narrative.


58 posted on 07/30/2021 9:45:25 AM PDT by Pollard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger

Just in time to knock recount news off the front page.


59 posted on 07/30/2021 9:47:28 AM PDT by xander (Textual correctness unlikely)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Badger
“I think people need to understand that we're not crying wolf here. This is serious,” Walensky told CNN.

When trying to convey the seriousness of a situation to a skeptical crowd, it's best not to use a clown to do it.

60 posted on 07/30/2021 9:48:21 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-96 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson