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The unborn babies used for vaccine development were alive at tissue extraction
LifeSite News ^ | January 12, 2021 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 01/12/2021 5:38:57 PM PST by ebb tide

The unborn babies used for vaccine development were alive at tissue extraction

January 12, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) – Today I had the great pleasure of sitting down with Pamela Acker, one of the most knowledgeable people in the world on vaccines and on what goes into them. Acker actually spent time in a vaccine research lab for nine months before encountering the ethical and moral issue of the HEK-293 cell line.

Our conversation today was one of the most enlightening but also deeply disturbing interviews I’ve ever done for my podcast The John-Henry Westen Show. 

Acker is a biologist and author of the recently released (and extremely informative) book Vaccination: A Catholic PerspectiveIn it, she reveals precisely how Catholics should be thinking about vaccines. You can buy it from our friends at the Kolbe Center for the Study of Creation. 

Unfortunately – depressingly really – under Pope Francis, the Vatican has largely downplayed if not entirely ignored the importance of bioethics. 

Francis himseljust last week endorsed the COVID-19 vaccine, saying that “it must be done.” 

Acker and I spoke about many topics today for over an hour. Please watch the entire interview if you can. The most revealing aspect of our conversation, I think, was when we discussed the various fetal cell lines being used in vaccinesspecifically.  

There are a number of fetal cell lines in existence right now. There’s WI-38, MRC-5, HEK-293, PER C-6, and WALVAX-2; WALVAX-2 is not currently being used in any vaccines, but does have the potential to be used and is currently used in therapeutic treatments. As Acker and I agreed, most people have this understanding that it was one or two babies that died and will simply dismiss these cell lines.  

Acker speaks about her research into the HEK-293 cell line specifically, and talks about the number that’s at the end of that cell line name. “HEK” stands for Human Embryonic Kidney and the “293” actually reveals the number of experiments that a specific researcher did to develop that cell line.  

It doesn’t mean there were two hundred and ninety-three abortions, but for two hundred and ninety-three experiments, you would certainly need far more than one abortion. We’re talking probably hundreds of abortions,” Acker shares.  

Acker goes on to discuss why researchers would choose a fetal cell line over an adult cell line. The details boil down to one answer: because they’ll last longer, having a much longer lifespanHowever, these cell lines encounter some dangerous side effects, such as the genes are given cancer promoting genes (but more on that inside the interview).  

Acker dispels the myth that these cell lines are created using spontaneous abortions, simply by understanding that these cells have to be gathered within five minutes of the abortion. A miscarriage would simply not provide cells that were alive enough for researchers to be able to use the cells.  

This is where things get very disturbing, because in most cases it’s not a “simple abortion,” but rather, Acker says:  

“They will actually deliver these babies via cesarean section. The babies are still alive when the researchers start extracting the tissue; to the point where their heart is still beating, and they’re generally not given any anesthetic, because that would disrupt the cells that the researchers are trying to extract. 

So, they’re removing this tissue, all the while the baby is alive and in extreme amounts of pain. So, this makes it even more sadistic.” 

While our discussion is broad, we do highlight the Moderna and Pfizer COVID vaccines specifically. The above is a small sample of the vital information Pamela Acker and I discussed today. I encourage each one of you to listen to the full interview, and share with your friends and family.  

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; antivaxxers; chinavirusvaccine; infanticide; info; murder; vaccines
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To: wjcsux

“Josef Mengele would be proud”

Note: Insert - “Josef Mengele (and Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and the rest of the Democrat party) would be proud.”

King Herod reigns again ... in Washington, D.C.


21 posted on 01/12/2021 6:25:04 PM PST by T Baden (Tenth Amendment Texan)
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To: mdmathis6
Not sure why they couldn’t have used less controversial cell lines.

It was the rush to commercial market and ensuing profits.

Other pharmaceutical companies are working on ethical, untainted vaccines, but I fear they may never reach commercial distribution.

22 posted on 01/12/2021 6:30:16 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: mdmathis6; All

Further information on the topic:

https://lozierinstitute.org/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-covid-19-vaccine/

and

https://lozierinstitute.org/cell-lines-used-for-viral-vaccine-production/


23 posted on 01/12/2021 6:31:48 PM PST by Drago
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To: J. Worthington

24 posted on 01/12/2021 6:32:17 PM PST by Bobalu (When I die I want to be buried in Chicago so I can stay active in politics)
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To: ebb tide

Never heard this before, how can they actually know how the cells were extracted all those years ago?


25 posted on 01/12/2021 6:34:12 PM PST by Marchmain (i vote pro-life)
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To: J. Worthington

I start every day with a prayer of thanks and then one of repentance for me and the world. Healing is good.


26 posted on 01/12/2021 6:41:12 PM PST by Shark24 ( )
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To: ebb tide
Hideous! Nazi doctors had nothing on us.

😞

27 posted on 01/12/2021 6:50:06 PM PST by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. I will never be a peaceful slave in a new Socialist America.)
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To: ebb tide

Perhaps every pro-life Christian should politely decline to take these vaccines?

That would reduce the number of vaccines produced, and therefore, reduce the number of unborn babies killed for the cause of keeping us alive?


28 posted on 01/12/2021 6:54:03 PM PST by God_Country_Trump_Guns
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To: Marchmain

How? They use the same methods today


29 posted on 01/12/2021 6:59:54 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: ebb tide

OMG. I feel as though I’m going to throw up.


30 posted on 01/12/2021 7:03:27 PM PST by little jeremiah (Thirst for truth is the most valuable possession and no one can take it away from you.)
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To: ifinnegan

What then are the facts? How many aborted babies were used?


31 posted on 01/12/2021 7:04:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (Thirst for truth is the most valuable possession and no one can take it away from you.)
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To: mdmathis6; Drago

Dr, Alan Moy of the John Paul II Medical Research Institute states that developing a safe, ethical and effective vaccine for COVID 19 is more problematic using cells derived from aborted children than non-human abortion sources:

The donated human tissue must be reproducible and of high quality. These requirements cannot be achieved from abortions. Medical records from abortions are scarce, inadequate and incomplete.…There are over 1 million annual newborn deliveries. Accurate medical records can be obtained. The tissue is reproducible.…where new cell lines can be produced in a matter of few weeks .…Newborn stem cells are rarely contaminated with pathogens. Medical records are accurate and tissue is always obtained with proper informed consent. Thus…to create human cell lines from abortion…is a poor choice. [47]

Pro-life Catholic and Christian religious leaders as well as spokesmen for pro-life medical, legal and advocacy organizations wrote to FDA Commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn on April 17, 2020 strongly urging him to not lend government assistance to the development of a COVID 19 vaccine that is in any way linked to using tissue from aborted children. [48]

Thankfully, President Trump has been very responsive to Pro-life requests. In 2019, his Administration suspended federal funding of previously approved HHS research contracts which used tissue derived from elective abortions despite opposition of a prominent fetal research scientist, who complained that, “Anything we do at this point could save hundreds of thousands of lives. If you wait, it’s too late.” [49]

32 posted on 01/12/2021 7:11:48 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

It would make sense to use the plandemic fear to get more people to accept abortions if it meant the safety of a vaccine.


33 posted on 01/12/2021 7:17:07 PM PST by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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To: ebb tide

Bookmark


34 posted on 01/12/2021 8:01:03 PM PST by Glinda Whatsit
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To: madison10

If they had not aborted 80,000,000 babies, they would of had the votes and would not have needed to cheat.

GOD HELP US!!!


35 posted on 01/12/2021 9:31:35 PM PST by sweetiepiezer (WINNING is not getting old!!!)
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To: little jeremiah

“What then are the facts? How many aborted babies were used?”

One female.


36 posted on 01/12/2021 10:29:20 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

Could you give a bit more detail? One aborted baby for developing this one vaccine? Or all vaccines? or something different? I’d like a bit of info.


37 posted on 01/12/2021 10:54:27 PM PST by little jeremiah (Thirst for truth is the most valuable possession and no one can take it away from you.)
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To: little jeremiah

“Could you give a bit more detail? One aborted baby for developing this one vaccine? Or all vaccines? or something different? I’d like a bit of info.”

To develop the cell line HEK293.

It was used to express proteins used in in vitro assays associated with early development the vaccine.


38 posted on 01/12/2021 10:57:16 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

So you are referring to this particular vaccine, then.


39 posted on 01/12/2021 11:02:34 PM PST by little jeremiah (Thirst for truth is the most valuable possession and no one can take it away from you.)
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To: little jeremiah

I am referring to creating the HEK293 cell line.

I do not know what other vaccines it may or may not have been used for.


40 posted on 01/12/2021 11:21:46 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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