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To: TexasGator

Yes, but fast charging decreases battery life, and, even if warrantied, charge capacity and internal battery resistance will degrade faster with repeated high amp recharges, than with slow charging.

Maybe someone here has details on what Tesla specifies in the way of degraded battery performance that would qualify (or not) for free battery pack replacement?

Put another way, if range for the std. model is 263 miles (posts above), is that guaranteed “as delivered”, after 1000 home charges, or after 1000 fast charges? Or after, say, 500 fast charges does one drop down to, say, 200 miles range and somewhat decreased performance otherwise, before the battery warranty kicks in?

Another bottom line is that I’d never accept 30 minute charge time while travelling. It’d have to be 10 minutes, and preferably less, to be acceptable to me. (The only time I go into a gas station is to go to the bathroom, or if the receipt at the pump doesn’t print out, and if travelling on Interstate Highways I usually stop at rest stops for the former. That makes for more quick stops, but better alertness on my part.) Otherwise, I don’t have time to dally at recharge stations for 30 minutes at a time. Or maybe I do, but I have a lot better uses for it (my time.)

10 minute charge times = a heck of a lot of power transfer for ordinary idiots to be handling. Even that Mode 4 you mention is a 240,000 KW “connection”. Once the connectors for a 10 minute charger get a little wear, some real fun can begin. (Yes, safeguards will be built in, but, I have a great deal of respect for and experience with Mr. Murphy in matters electrical.)

None of this is to degrade Tesla’s products: They are quite an achievement and definitely have a place in the market. But, even Elon knows there are some practical limitations, especially when it comes to electrical grid capacity.


150 posted on 02/16/2021 11:52:29 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

“Yes, but fast charging decreases battery life”

What is ‘too fast’?


156 posted on 02/17/2021 9:10:52 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Paul R.

Lucid is advertising 20 minute charge and 300 mile range.

Take a rest break there!


157 posted on 02/17/2021 9:15:08 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Paul R.

“I don’t have time to dally at recharge stations for 30 minutes at a time.”

Given that you can charge at home before you leave and after you return you may actually save time!


158 posted on 02/17/2021 9:17:26 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Paul R.

“Maybe someone here has details on what Tesla specifies in the way of degraded battery performance “

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=tesla+battery+guarantee&ia=web&iai=r1-0&page=1&sexp=%7B%22cdrexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22artexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22prodexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22prdsdexp%22%3A%22c%22%2C%22biaexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22msvrtexp%22%3A%22b%22%7D


159 posted on 02/17/2021 10:17:14 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Paul R.

How many days a year do you travel over 300 miles?

Of those, what is the average?


160 posted on 02/17/2021 10:19:27 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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