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Musk: Electric Cars Will Require a Lot More Electric Power Than We Currently Have
PJ Media ^ | DEC 01, 2020 | BRYAN PRESTON

Posted on 12/01/2020 5:15:01 PM PST by george76

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To: Fester Chugabrew

Agreed. Put some solar cells and a windmill on the roof of the electric car and charge as you drive. Duh. People are so dumb. Problem solved now where is my million dollar grant.

Seriously though, induction Charging sections of roads would freak people out over “radiation” so I think that’s out. Btw how well do battery cars do at 10 degrees and below temperatures? Does the heater work well on them. How about 110 degrees and the AC on?


161 posted on 02/17/2021 12:52:35 PM PST by wgmalabama (Tag line for rent. )
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To: TexasGator

Mine did on the highway. Granted I was a cheapskate conservative driver, hold it to 55 mph, draft some semi’s (not TOO close!) and quasi “iron-man” about stops, back then. 300 miles, one stop to pee, maybe. There was cheap gas in Marion, IL: Fill up there, drive to buddy’s in Oakbrook, Il, (arrive 6 a.m. / B4 rush hour), he’d drive his car to the CES, etc., on return trip, refill in Marion.

NOT advisable to try if there was a strong headwind: The CRX 1.3 seemed to be optimized right at 55 mph. Make it 70 mph “airspeed” and the mpg went to heck. Winter temps (and gas) dropped it a bit, too.

After the car had over 100k miles on it, and I was not quite as poor and probably driving a little more aggressively, highway mileage dropped to 50-52 mpg, typically. Less if I was carting a lot of weight* around and in cold temps as noted.

Best of that? One day I hauled 5, yes FIVE lovely young ladies in the CRX to a picnic. I’m sure the mpg was awful. As if I cared or noticed.


162 posted on 02/17/2021 1:12:11 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: TexasGator
According to Tesla:

Charging faster than about C/2 (two hour charge) can reduce the cell's life.

This is old info., but correlates well with practical experience. The whole article is quite good. Note the recommendation to charge to only 50% when feasible:

https://www.tesla.com/blog/bit-about-batteries

Even with conservative use:

If, for example, you drive 10,000 miles per year at the end of five years you will have around 70 percent of the energy storage capacity of when new

To be fair, ICE engines degrade with time too, esp. if maintenance is not good. But with good maintenance I've not seen any ICE of mine (starting with my old CRX) decrease by 70% in even 100k miles.

163 posted on 02/17/2021 1:43:55 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: TexasGator

Irrelevant, as I’d never be able to afford it.

When an electric car with the functionality of my Subie Outback shows up on the used market in good condition for $10 grand, maybe $12 grand (the $2k plus interest / growth countered by operational cost savings), I’ll likely be interested.


164 posted on 02/17/2021 1:51:05 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: TexasGator

The recharge time issue as I stated it would mainly crop up on longer trips, or those effectively so. Camping trips could be particularly problematic, unless campgrounds really upgrade their electric hookups (which users presently often max out as it is) and all campgrounds have such - many my family go to do not. Then what? Drive around exploring in the day and at night, tell the squirrels to get to work?

An inexpensive used mid-size electric vehicle with a fresh battery pack as our 2nd car would make sense for my family: Trips to town, wifey to wifey’s job, lug daughter and her friends around (assuming “normal” ever returns), etc. However, the “inexpensive” part is not happening yet.


165 posted on 02/17/2021 2:17:42 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: JD_UTDallas

“The solution for RBMK was to use 1_2% enrichment which lowers the thermal Doppler coefficient to slightly negative but this means that the fuel must be enriched a”

Backwards. Doppler coefficient was always negative. Fixed absorption units were installed to reduce void coefficients necessitating an increase in enrichment.


166 posted on 02/17/2021 3:20:14 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Aqua225

“Then there is battery capacity for higher towing loads. Cost per kilowatt hour won’t help if you can’t store enough of them on board.”

Most truck routes are less. than 300 miles. Tesla will. have 300 and 500 mile models.


167 posted on 02/17/2021 3:29:22 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Aqua225

“It’s been a while since I read Midnight in Chernobyl, but I think that Chernobyl was running natural metal on the night of the explosion.”

Keep your day job.


168 posted on 02/17/2021 3:35:42 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Ozark Tom

“Batteries are not the future.”

When I was little we only needed batteries for flashlights and starting cars.

I now have a section of my garage dedicated to charging batteries ...


169 posted on 02/17/2021 3:38:32 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“The grid is not there.”

Didn’t stop Henry Ford. Model-T went into production four years before the first gas station was built.


170 posted on 02/17/2021 3:40:26 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

You cant carry cans of electricity in your trunk.


171 posted on 02/17/2021 3:41:30 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (May their path be strewn with Legos, may they step on them with bare feet until they repent. )
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To: Secret Agent Man

“those transformers need down time”

Still posting this unfounded statement ...


172 posted on 02/17/2021 3:42:27 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Midnight in Chernobyl said natural metal, but the trial said 2%.

Given how unstable the reactor was, I go with natural. They were suppose to go to 2% enrichment to help stabilize the design.

It took you 2.5 months to come up with keep your day job, hahahahaha!


173 posted on 02/17/2021 3:45:46 PM PST by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: TexasGator

Those ranges are the vehicle only and useless for towing.

What’s the deal with you stalking my posts?

Not that I care, maybe you’ll learn something!


174 posted on 02/17/2021 3:47:22 PM PST by Aqua225 (Realist)
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To: Jim Noble

“And Central Africa is going to run out of child slaves to do the digging.”

Stop spreading that liberal lie!


175 posted on 02/17/2021 3:48:43 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: wgmalabama

https://www.sae.org/standards/content/j2954_202010/


176 posted on 02/17/2021 3:51:18 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“You cant carry cans of electricity in your trunk.”

Already debunked


177 posted on 02/17/2021 3:57:49 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Aqua225

“Given how unstable the reactor was, I go with natural”

I see you are doubling down. Keep your day job!


178 posted on 02/17/2021 3:59:50 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Aqua225

“Those ranges are the vehicle only and useless for towing.”

ROTFLMAO! Ranges are with 80k trailer.

Keep your day job.


179 posted on 02/17/2021 4:01:16 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Paul R.

” Camping trips could be particularly problematic, unless campgrounds really upgrade their electric hookups”

Your campgrounds have gas stations?


180 posted on 02/17/2021 4:05:57 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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