Posted on 10/20/2020 3:43:38 AM PDT by RandFan
White House coronavirus response coordinator Deborah Birx recently confronted Vice President Pence about the increasing influence of Scott Atlas over the administration’s handling of the pandemic, a person familiar with the exchange confirmed to The Hill.
Birx raised concerns about the information Atlas was giving President Trump and suggested he be removed from the White House coronavirus task force. Atlas is not an infectious diseases expert but has emerged as one of Trump’s most influential advisers on the pandemic.
The exchange was first reported by The Washington Post, which said Pence asked Birx and Atlas to work out the strife on their own and to present data to their colleagues supporting their viewpoints.
Atlas advocates policies that put him at odds with the mainstream of infectious diseases experts and other health officials on the task force.
Most controversially, he praises the herd immunity strategy outlined in a document called the "Great Barrington Declaration," which calls for allowing the virus to spread among lower-risk, younger people to build up immunity while having “focused protection” on older, high-risk people.
Many leading experts have denounced that approach as leading to hundreds of thousands of more deaths as the virus circulates freely. Tom Frieden, the former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, estimated last week that the herd immunity strategy would lead to at least 500,000 more deaths.
Twitter also removed a tweet from Atlas over the weekend that questioned the effectiveness of masks, which are embraced by leading experts as a way to slow the spread of the virus. "Masks work? NO," Atlas’s tweet began.
As Democrats push to expand testing in talks over a coronavirus response package in Congress, Atlas is also pushing back on the idea, saying testing should be focused on the vulnerable only.
“When you start seeking out and testing asymptomatic people, you are destroying the workforce,” Atlas told The New York Times.
Atlas has established himself as one of the most influential voices in the president’s ear on the pandemic, according to multiple current and former administration officials. Trump has in recent weeks cast doubt on the effectiveness of masks and railed against continued restrictions on economic activity to slow the spread of the virus.
Anthony Fauci, the government’s top infectious diseases expert, and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Robert Redfield have both spoken out against Atlas and his ideas publicly or privately.
Redfield was overheard last month lamenting that “everything [Atlas] says is false” during a phone conversation on a flight.
Fauci last week called the herd immunity strategy embraced by Atlas “total nonsense.”
Asked about Atlas’s position and if the White House was open to herd immunity, Fauci did not mention Atlas by name but pushed back in an interview with Yahoo News last week.
“My position is known, Dr. Deborah Birx's position is known, and Dr. Bob Redfield,” Fauci told Yahoo News, adding: “All three of us very clearly are against that.”
Experts say there is no way to fully protect the vulnerable if the virus is raging unchecked in the broader population.
Birx, a State Department official with an expertise on HIV/AIDS, was tapped to coordinate the White House coronavirus response in late February when there were just a few dozen confirmed cases in the United States. She was a regular fixture at White House briefings on the pandemic and appeared frequently on television to defend the administration’s response to the outbreak.
But White House officials grew irritated when Birx delivered data-heavy presentations in June and early July that undercut their preferred narrative that the situation in U.S. was improving, according to Olivia Troye, a former adviser to the task force who left her role in July.
Birx has been pushed aside at the White House, last appearing alongside Trump in early August. She has spent the last few months on the road, meeting with governors and university officials to advise them on their pandemic response and gather information on best practices.
She has joined Fauci, Redfield and Surgeon General Jerome Adams as public health experts who were prominent figures in the early weeks of the pandemic but who have been sidelined from public view even as the country sees rising case numbers and hospitalizations.
They cannot allow the country to reopen and prosper again.
Excellent post! (#12)
Barf Scarf and The Dwarf never discussed the virus and the shut down in terms of total cost to society. I will never forgive them for that.
FYI, The Hill, nowhere in your article do you mention the 99% survivability rate. Why?
“Anthony Fauci, the government’s top infectious diseases expert”
NO!!! He’s not THE top expert. He may be AN expert, but that’s it. (If he were “top” he’d have figured out AIDS.)
Birx needs to STFU, join Fauci, and take their circus act on the road.
Dr. Ramin Oskoui, Foxhall Cardiology CEO with Laura:
Youtube: 3m56s: 17 Oct: Fox: Ingraham Angle: “I’m Shocked He Still Has a Podium - He’s Been Wrong So Many Times” Top US Doctor UNLOADS on Fauci
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5PMdfmWflk&feature=emb_logo
19 Oct: Metro UK: 350,000 referrals for cancer patients missed since March
by Dominic Yeatman
THE number of people dying at home from illnesses other than Covid-19 has rocketed since lockdown.
Figures from the Office for National Statistics for March to September reveal that almost 1,000 deaths are being recorded every week — up 26,000 on the same period last year.
Among the biggest killers are diabetes (up 86 per cent), Parkinson’s (79 per cent), prostate cancer (53 per cent), breast cancer (47 per cent) and bowel cancer (46 per cent). Deaths among women with dementia have jumped 75 per cent. Prof Karol Sikora, director of cancer care provider Rutherford Health, said it was time to ask ‘difficult questions to avoid even more unnecessary deaths’. The leading oncologist added: ‘Covid-19 kills… but so does lockdown.’
Fiona Carragher, of the Alzheimer’s Society and former deputy chief scientific officer of NHS England, blamed the ‘dreadful side-effects of lockdown’. She added: ‘Isolation, fear and suspension of health and social care services will have contributed to the catastrophic increase in people with dementia dying. We saw it in care homes and now we’re seeing the impact in the community.’
Another 80 coronavirus deaths were recorded yesterday...
The ONS figures reveal there were 27million fewer GP appointments between March and August than in the same period last year...
Meanwhile, latest government figures show there were 5,402 Covid-19 patients in hospital in England on Monday, up from 3,665 a week ago, while 528 were in ventilation beds, up from 426 seven days earlier.
https://www.metro.news/350000-referrals-for-cancer-patients-missed-since-march/2190294/
“Birx needs to STFU, join Fauci, and take their circus act on the road.”
Agree with the first and second part. The third has already occurred sans the mental midget as she has spewed her toxicity throughout the country at many major universities thereby affecting that sector of the economy.
Atlas’s finest moment:
Youtube: 3m08s: 14 Oct: Fox: Laura Ingraham: Scott Atlas smashes Fauci and lockdowns, says it is legitimate to call them a crime against humanity
In this brilliant summary of the devastation caused by lockdowns, Atlas condemns public health terrorists like Fauci who have absolutely no regard, no care for the health and well being of the millions who are being devastated by the criminal, non-scientific human experiment of lockdowns.
* Working class & low income people destroyed
* 46% of cancers not diagnosed
* 50% chemo appts missed
* 50% missed immunizations
* 200K missed cases of abuse
* 25% of young people considering suicide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aMV8NSQ7is
” allowing the virus to spread among lower-risk, younger people to build up immunity while having “focused protection” on older, high-risk people. “
I say he’s right. Exactly right. Until we start to build natural immunity among the healthy, the virus will have an easier time surviving and being transmitted. The more this goes on, the more seriously I suspect Fauci and Birx of complicity.
I always appreciate Dr. Oskoui when Laura has him on. He has a point here.
As I posted a while back, a dear friend is dying of cancer due to her inability to get a colonoscopy.
They did a “Whipple procedure”, and I’m not sure what all that entails, but from what I’ve read, it’s extreme. Cancer is ramppant. Chemo is supposed to end in December, but it appears the chemo isn’t keeping up with the cancer.
“Anthony Fauci, the government’s top infectious diseases expert...”
There is no degree to be “an expert.” It is a made up term you get because you know “stuff” in “an area of knowledge.”
None of them are epidemiologists, and, guess what? None need to be to understand and encourage public policy implementation, as you can tell from Fauci and Brix.
all that he has said is false... i could say most fauci has spouted was false... he’ll say it is because he wanted to protect the health care workers, atlas wants to protect all workers.
fire the lot of them mr president.
Even “The Walking Dead” lampooned the incompetence of the CDC.
The CDC and WHO is made up of political hacks who don’t know much and can’t do much.
The general public is NOT basing their actions on Dr. Atlas’s words. I told people from day one that Americans would ultimately stop social distancing, masks, etc. because they don’t like people telling them what they CANNOT do.
Young people, no matter what, are going to throw parties, raves, RIOTS, etc. Look at all those super-sized parties they have been breaking up in LA. Do you think there is one soul in that crowd that is a Trump supporter and listens to what Dr. Atlas is saying? They don’t even know who Dr. Atlas is.
House Brix is a bigger con artist than Fauci the Fraud
The mistake everyone is making is to believe that the questions to be decided are scientific and not political.
As a result, people are constantly bending, reframing, or outright falsifying the science to support whatever political decision they want to see.
herd is the only NON RIDICULOUS option...
since 99.7% of those WHO GET SYMPTOMS survive... some don’t even know they had it.
This is nothing more than a bad cold.
I try to hire plumbers with successful records of solving plumbing problems. That’s a criterion I use for deeming someone an “expert”, not a meaningless title, nor even accolades from peers with similar meaningless titles.
The consensus for centuries among medical “experts” was to use bloodletting to cure just about everything. How did that work out?
-Fauxi 2005. NIH Scientists Conceal Millions in Royalties for Experimental Treatments
-Fauxi’s 15 deadly mistakes and contradictions
-Fauxi and Birx used fraudulent Imperial College model to urge shut down
-Modeler had to resign in disgrace
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/professor-lockdown-modeler-resigns-in-disgrace/
-Fauxi later reverses and says we can’t rely on models
https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2020/04/03/fauci-we-cant-really-rely-on-models/ ;
-Fauxi has numerous conflicts of interest
https://newswithviews.com/dr-fauci-and-dr-birx-have-a-record-of-medical-failure/
-Fauxi has long history of fraud
http://www.americanfreedomunion.com/dr-faucis-long-criminal-history/
https://www.coreysdigs.com/law-order/when-the-masks-went-on-their-masks-came-off/
-Fauxi fired researcher that exposed his vaccines were spreading chronic diseases
-Fauxi is Hillary loyalist
-Fauxi promised AIDS Vaccine and has yet to deliver
https://newswithviews.com/dr-fauci-and-dr-birx-have-a-record-of-medical-failure/
-Scarf Queen falsified data on HIV research
https://truepundit.com/dod-leak-feds-investigated-birx-fabricated-falsified-hiv-aids-vaccine-trials/
- Fauxi knew hydroxyxhloroquine could both cure and prevent corona viruses in 2005. Passive aggressive on HCQ in 2020. Intentional?
-”Fauxi” praised use of hydroxychloroquine in 2013 to treat the MERS corona virus. Risky drug in 2020?
COVER UP: Fauci Approved Chloroquine, Hydroxychloroquine 15 Years Ago to Cure Coronaviruses; “Nobody Needed to Die” – True Pundit
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/
-Fauxi funded research grants to Wuhan lab to fund risky virus research that was illegal in the U.S.
https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/why-us-outsourced-bat-virus-research-to-wuhan/
-Fauxi in 2017: President Trump Will Be Challenged By a “Surprise Global Disease Outbreak”. What did he know?
-Despite his 2017 prediction, Fauxi unprepared for 2020 pandemic. By design?
-In Jan 2020 interview, he said, “... this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.” - intentional?
https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/03/flashback-fauci-coronavirus-us-threat-trump/
-Fauxi caught on video flip flopping on severity of the virus
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=59a0uGIFZGY
-Fauxi said masks do not work.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/preventing-coronavirus-facemask-60-minutes-2020-03-08/
-Fauxi in February said malls, gyms and movie theaters were OK. Make us more vulnerable?
-Fauxi in March said Americans cruises were OK. Catch us with guard down?
-Fauci on CNN Easter Sunday suggested President Trump should have shut down the country in February
-Fauxi exaggerated need for Hospital beds
-Fauxi is front man for Big Pharma, pushing expensive new drugs that require tests and trials rather than inexpensive proven cures like HCQ+zinc+zpack that have been around for decades. More time to let the virus spread?
-Fauxi delaying tests of vaccines and cures
-Fauxi agenda is mandated vaccines to benefit Big Pharma and Bill Gates.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/8/anthony-fauci-sets-stage-mandatory-vaccine/
-Fauxi 100% wrong with exaggerated models
-Fauxi longtime relationship with corrupt WHO director, a communist-globalist with terrorist ties, who covers for the CCP
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fauci-who-head-really-outstanding-person
-Fauxi endorses Tinder hookups
https://nypost.com/2020/04/15/fauci-endorses-tinder-hookups-with-a-caveat/
-Fauxi plotted ‘Global Vaccine Action Plan’ with depopulation advocate Bill Gates, pushing panic and doubts about HCQ. Big Pharma $$$s.
- Fauxi, May 2020 told National Geographic the virus did not originate in Chinese Lab.
-Fauxi wrong again on State of Georgia reopening
-Dr Birx now believes CDC inflating death numbers by as much as 25%. distancing herself?
-First Case in US Treated with Remdesivir was January – Two Weeks Later China Was Mass Producing the Drug – The Firm Gilead Sciences and Dr. Fauci Are In the Middle
Fauxi’s own NIH - Breakthrough: Chloroquine Phosphate Has Shown Apparent Efficacy in Treatment of COVID-19 Associated Pneumonia in Clinical Studies
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32074
https://mobile.twitter.com/99freemind/status/1243171622661521409/photo/2
Two Fauxi mistakes led to nationwide Lockdown
https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-two-mistakes-that-led-to-a-national-lockdown_3349318.html
Fauci and the Tuskegee Syphilis Study victims
Fauxi ties to Deep State, Soros, Gates, Clintons
Fauci caught in lie about inflammatory condition in children (May 2020)
Did Anthony Fauci’s promotion of dangerous research help create the COVID-19 pandemic?
Fauxi takes off face mask when cameras are off
https://www.bitchute.com/video/8PutjswgshE4
Fauci Files: Celebrated doc’s career dotted with ethics, safety controversies inside NIH
All The Times Dr Fauci Was Wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkuzZAZ7
Fauci tells the NFL they can’t play in the fall.
But next week he is throwing out the first pitch at the Washington Nationals opener.
Is Fauci corrupt to the core?
Fauci is not concerned with safety of vaccine
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