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VMware, Twitter Cut Pay for Remote Workers Fleeing Bay Area
Bloomberg via Yahoo ^ | 9/11/2020 | Nico Grant, Sophie Alexander and Kurt Wagner

Posted on 09/11/2020 1:14:18 PM PDT by RightGeek

Link only because Bloomberg.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
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To: RightGeek

A lot of these workers have left the country. Gone to Costa Rica, etc.


21 posted on 09/11/2020 2:12:35 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: KarlInOhio
And if they look at medical treatment and see a lot more "bit by possum" rather than "stepped on a needle hidden in human feces".

LOL! That is one of funniest lines I have read here in quite a while.

22 posted on 09/11/2020 2:39:21 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: KarlInOhio

Information is valuable, don’t let the company know your business. If they were willing to pay more while your location was thought to be in one place, why let them know you’re in another?


23 posted on 09/11/2020 2:46:39 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: RightGeek

The funny thing is East Coast based remote workers who end up a with a Silicon Valley gig feel like they hit a gold mine.


24 posted on 09/11/2020 2:59:01 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Plugs/Jugs 2020....Joe/Ho 2020...)
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To: RedStateRocker
“OTOH, a lot of coders that I know are not necessarily all that liberal, they’ve just had to work in these areas. I think that a good chunk of developers trend libertarian and are quite simpatico with places where real Americans are the majority.“

You might need to qualify that statement with “ a lot of coders who are citizens”. ;)

25 posted on 09/11/2020 3:10:01 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ("Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither.")
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To: wildcard_redneck

Yeah, good point. The ones I know don’t really care for the culture of the bay area (except the food) but you go where the work is. But $150K in Montana goes a lot farther than $200K in Silicone Valley


26 posted on 09/11/2020 3:15:39 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: RedStateRocker

I grew up in Montana and I totally agree.


27 posted on 09/11/2020 3:24:36 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ("Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither.")
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To: RightGeek

it’s not a pay cut if their cost of living goes down, and if their original employment contract didn’t include a clause for up-and-WFH’ing ... then ... sorry employees.


28 posted on 09/11/2020 4:08:30 PM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: KarlInOhio

Mandatory meeting after lunch.


29 posted on 09/11/2020 4:20:25 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: CA Conservative
And if someone chooses to transfer from one office to another, it is perfectly legal to adjust their pay accordingly.

Only if they're told up front that re-locating means an adjustment in pay.

30 posted on 09/11/2020 5:04:39 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

“Only if they’re told up front that re-locating means an adjustment in pay.”

In this case, they are being told if they want to work from home and that home is in a different area, their pay may be adjusted. I guess they can decide they don’t want to work from home or want to stay in the Bay Area. Of course, if they don’t want to work remotely and the company decides they want people to be working remotely, they might just lose their job entirely...


31 posted on 09/11/2020 5:28:05 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: KarlInOhio
And if they look at medical treatment and see a lot more "bit by possum" rather than "stepped on a needle hidden in human feces".

Since you're going to have to enroll with a CA insurance plan the company will never know - because you're never going to have a paid insurance claim.

32 posted on 09/11/2020 5:34:29 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: CA Conservative
It seems totally counter to what my employer is doing. I'm in I.T. Leadership and run the bank's "disruptive technologies" initiatives. In my 15 years with this same bank, I've been in every different line of business, learning what each does, finding synergies between them and helping wring out cost vis a vis technology and application consolidation, lifecycle, and my favorite - disruptive technologies.

Since March 2nd of this year, all of I.T. has been WFH. During that time, some of us have re-located to different parts of the country and kept our big city salaries.

Two weeks ago, the bank announced I.T. was going to be remote work only (unless there was a darn good reason we had to be in office) and we were all free to move anywhere we wanted to.

In the announcement, there was zero mention of pay adjustments based on locations we ended up in. Five years ago, some of my co-workers re-located to a southwestern state where we stood up a new data center, they took their big city salaries with them. Consequently, we've been told our salaries remain the same where ever we go.

I'm targeting S.E. Tennessee. Taking my big city salary with me is going to be nice.

As I said, what VMWare and Twitter are doing is flying in the face of what my employer is doing. I guess VMWare and Twitter don't value their employees.

33 posted on 09/11/2020 5:42:02 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

You’ve got a good company, and they obviously consider it a good investment to be able to keep the talent and institutional knowledge represented by their IT staff. I think that is what SMART COMPANIES should do, but then again, we are talking about Twitter and Facebook...


34 posted on 09/11/2020 5:49:25 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative

I consider myself very fortunate being with the employer I am. Sometimes I’m just gobsmacked at how poorly other employers treat their employees.


35 posted on 09/11/2020 7:00:47 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: CA Conservative

People don’t seem to understand that paying an Asian wage is usually an option for the employer as well; that is what many of us are competing with now.


36 posted on 09/12/2020 5:09:35 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: RedStateRocker
Libertarians are wrong, period. Just because you morons like guns doesn't make you human. Remember, the creep that got his arm blown off likes guns, too.

You people have more in common with antifa than Republicans.

37 posted on 09/12/2020 5:44:29 AM PDT by LouAvul (The wheels of America are coming off and the media have stolen the lug nuts.)
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To: beef

I worked for two companies and had my position rolled into Boston once, and hartford the second time. My base salary was changed upwards both times. I never moved an inch. It was great.


38 posted on 09/12/2020 5:53:47 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: LouAvul
Vending machine narcotics. Liberty of sexual preference (i.e., pro fag). Freedom of choice (i.e., pro abortion). Etc.

Drug-addled, boy-raping baby-killers, (who like smaller government)

Yup, just regular normal guys.

39 posted on 09/12/2020 6:30:56 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Unlike Jeffery Epstein, George Floyd DID kill himself.)
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To: usconservative

“Since March 2nd of this year, all of I.T. has been WFH. During that time, some of us have re-located to different parts of the country and kept our big city salaries. “

I’m WFH since March and there is no immediate sign of going back. If anything, productivity has gone UP. However, there is still some turnover, people retire/drop dead, etc....This isn’t a sustainable mode of operation. How do you really “onboard”?

Maybe this will give companies more thought to onboarding people. My “onboarding process” amounted to being thrown to wolves and allowed to sink or swim. But I was THERE.


40 posted on 09/12/2020 7:50:08 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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