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Trump challenges Fauci over comments on coronavirus surges: 'Wrong!'
The Hill ^ | 08/02/20 07:37 AM EDT | BY JUSTIN WISE

Posted on 08/02/2020 4:46:23 AM PDT by RandFan

President Trump on Saturday publicly rejected Anthony Fauci's analysis on why the United States has experienced a surge in coronavirus cases, claiming that the nation's top infectious disease expert wasn't accounting for the U.S. testing capacity.

"Wrong!" Trump said in a tweet that linked to a video of Fauci's Friday testimony before Congress.

In a hearing focused on the federal response to the global health crisis, Fauci said that the U.S. was experiencing a much more severe resurgence in coronavirus cases than countries in Europe because many American states failed to completely shut down.

"If you look at what happened in Europe when they shut down or locked down or went into shelter-in-place. … They really did it to the tune of about 95-plus percent of the country did that," Fauci said.

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Wrong! We have more cases because we have tested far more than any other country, 60,000,000. If we tested less, there would be less cases. How did Italy, France & Spain do? Now Europe sadly has flare ups. Most of our governors worked hard & smart. We will come back STRONG!

:: https://t.co/hhwYOrnWZn

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 1, 2020

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"When you actually look at what we did, even though we shut down, even though we created a great deal of difficulty, we really functionally shut down only about 50 percent in the sense of the totality of the country," he added.

Trump, who has repeatedly touted the U.S. testing capacity in the face of criticism, claimed in his Saturday tweet that the reason the country had such a high case count was because "we have tested far more than any other country."

"If we tested less, there would be less cases. How did Italy, France & Spain do? Now Europe sadly has flare ups. Most of our governors worked hard & smart. We will come back STRONG," Trump said.

The comments marked the latest instance in which tensions between those in the White House and Fauci have spilled out into the open. Several administration officials have publicly questioned Fauci's health assessments, with White House trade adviser Peter Navarro writing in a USA Today op-ed last month that American should treat the health expert's advice with skepticism.

Trump last week retweeted a message that Fauci has "misled" the American people on a variety of issues, including the safety of a controversial anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine. Fauci responded by saying that he has not misled the public about the pandemic.

As of Sunday morning, the U.S. had reported more than 4.6 million cases of COVID-19, the diseased caused by the novel coronavirus, and roughly 154,000 deaths stemming from it, according to a Johns Hopkins University database. A sustained surge in infections in recent months spurred many states to halt reopening plans and implement mask mandates.

Trump has continually cited the U.S. testing capacity as the reason for these surges. Health experts, including Fauci, have said, however, that an uptick in cases cannot be explained by an increase in testing.

Fauci reiterated this point during his testimony on Friday, stating that the surge in cases was caused by several factors, including states not abiding "strictly by the guidelines that the task force and the White House had put out" when beginning a phased reopening.

Trump has maintained that he has a good relationship with Fauci, who polls have shown to be one of the most trusted voices in the country speaking about the health crisis.

"He’s got this high approval rating, so why don’t I have a high approval rating ... with respect to the virus?" Trump asked aloud at a White House press conference on Monday.


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KEYWORDS: fauci; fauxi; fauxilinks; fauxilinx; trump
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1 posted on 08/02/2020 4:46:23 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

How is Florida doing?


2 posted on 08/02/2020 4:48:48 AM PDT by Morpheus2009 (If you want me to be afraid, then be consistent in your logic, standards, and your lies!)
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To: RandFan

INVESTIGATE FAUCI


3 posted on 08/02/2020 4:54:08 AM PDT by high info voter
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To: RandFan

how many whistleblowers will FauXi (and handlers)
... kill or jail?

they will kill/jail as many, over as many decades,
as they need(ed) for the PLANDEMIC to have worked.


4 posted on 08/02/2020 4:56:20 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced")
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To: RandFan

Fauci responded by saying that he has not misled the public about the pandemic.

That Fauci singled out New York State, the state with the highest number of corona deaths per 100,000, as an example of doing things right says everything.


5 posted on 08/02/2020 5:00:57 AM PDT by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: Flick Lives

Exactly. And, that is just ONE example of where this FRAUD was wrong, or flip flopped, or misled.


6 posted on 08/02/2020 5:03:19 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: RandFan
I like what Tucker Carlson had to say about that little beast.
7 posted on 08/02/2020 5:04:19 AM PDT by .30Carbine (The Day of Return is coming)
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To: RandFan
What a slimy worm Fauci is. The smarmy creep repeatedly failed to condemn the massive riots and looting, arson and destruction by huge crowds of up to 100,000 at a time as one of the main causes of recent surges in positives, after Jim Jordan had played him like a fiddle at the congressional hearings.
Meanwhile, attention whore Fauci has had no problems at all condemning churches, bars , restaurants, barber shops etc who opened up again to save their businesses and feed their families.
This senile old fool needs to be carried off to the crazy house in a straitjacket.
8 posted on 08/02/2020 5:06:09 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Morpheus2009

How are the nursing homes in New York doing and how many coronavirus deaths did New York have as compared to Florida?


9 posted on 08/02/2020 5:08:45 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: RandFan

I am glad the President is standing up to Fauci. The lock downs are the reason for the resurgence. The virus did not just go away while the people’s livelihoods tanked. Now the virus is going through the population that is finally getting a chance to go back to normal. So it looks like a major increase. The reality is there would have been the same or very close number of cases without a lock down but spread out over a longer amount of time. So it would not have been so dramatic. Plus it would have meant giving herd immunity a chance to develop. Instead now we have a peak in cases. Which feeds into the fearmongering of Fauci and others.


10 posted on 08/02/2020 5:11:20 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: SmokingJoe

it’s all lies.

FakeNewsMSM worldwide is reporting that there were only 17,000-20,000 at the “End the Pandemic - Freedom Day” or “Tag der Freiheit” protest in Berlin, Germany on Saturday. people kept commenting on youtubes that it was 1.3 million.

nearly 6 hours. cameras scan the crowd 360 degrees - people as far as the eyes can see:

Youtube: 01.08.2020 Berlin - Tag der Freiheit Live - 1,3 Millionen Menschen UNGLAUBLICH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htDrDieOgh0

a number of people commenting are furious the FakeNewsMSM is lying about the numbers, e.g. translating from German to English:

from the comments under the 5 hour-plus video:

Do not forget: Tomorrow among all mainstream videos, posts, tweets, articles, on all platforms spread the true number. 800,000-1,500,000 protesters, not 10,000 or 20,000!
The scribes are really annoying!

1 Aug: TV6: Thousands of protests were held in Berlin against epidemiological restrictions
German police have disbanded Saturday’s protest against restrictions imposed in Berlin on the coronavirus epidemic, the MTI writes. Police justified the action on the grounds that the organizers of the demonstration did not ensure compliance with health regulations.

Authorities say a crowd of 20,000 marched through the city center to the Brandenburg Gate, ***but organizers estimate that 1.3 million protesters took part in the movement...
https://tv6.news/thousands-of-protests-were-held-in-berlin-against-epidemiological-restrictions/


11 posted on 08/02/2020 5:13:05 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: Morpheus2009

We are fine. I’ve read that Jim Cantore is in the Carolinas. So we must be safe.


12 posted on 08/02/2020 5:13:08 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lastchance

Trump introduced Fauci to the World by putting him front and and center
when Covid 19 broke out here. A big mistake. It’s way past time to dis-credit
Fauci. Dirty this hack up good.


13 posted on 08/02/2020 5:18:54 AM PDT by tennmountainman (The Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: RandFan

14 posted on 08/02/2020 5:19:00 AM PDT by bankwalker (groupthink kills ...)
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-Fauxi 2005.  NIH Scientists Conceal Millions in Royalties for Experimental Treatments 

https://ahrp.org/nih-scientists-caught-concealing-millions-in-royalties-for-experimental-treatments-ap

-Fauxi’s 15 deadly mistakes and contradictions

https://710wor.iheart.com/featured/mark-simone/content/2020-05-12-dr-anthony-faucis-15-totally-wrong-predictions-and-contradictions/

-Fauxi and Birx used fraudulent Imperial College model to urge shut down 

https://liberalsarenuts.com/2020/05/07/dr-fauci-and-dr-birx-used-imperial-college-model-now-confirmed-as-a-complete-fraud-to-persuade-president-trump-to-lock-down-entire-us-economy

https://judithcurry.com/2020/03/25/covid-19-updated-data-implies-that-uk-modelling-hugely-overestimates-the-expected-death-rates-from-infection

-Modeler had to resign in disgrace

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/professor-lockdown-modeler-resigns-in-disgrace/

-Fauxi later reverses and says we can’t rely on models

https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2020/04/03/fauci-we-cant-really-rely-on-models/ ;  
   

-Fauxi has numerous conflicts of interest

https://nationalfile.com/president-trump-vs-bill-gates-on-treatment-fauci-has-a-100-million-conflict-of-interest

https://newswithviews.com/dr-fauci-and-dr-birx-have-a-record-of-medical-failure/

-Fauxi has long history of fraud

http://www.americanfreedomunion.com/dr-faucis-long-criminal-history/

https://www.coreysdigs.com/law-order/when-the-masks-went-on-their-masks-came-off/

-Fauxi fired researcher that exposed his vaccines were spreading chronic diseases

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/sweet-innocent-dr-fauci-assistant-doctor-fired-jailed-2011-warning-vaccines-giving-americans-known-chronic-diseases/

-Fauxi is Hillary loyalist

https://conservativedailypost.com/fauci-fraud-face-of-coronavirus-task-force-exposed-in-hillary-loving-deep-state-act
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-Fauxi promised AIDS Vaccine and has yet to deliver

https://newswithviews.com/dr-fauci-and-dr-birx-have-a-record-of-medical-failure/

    

-Scarf Queen falsified data on HIV research

https://truepundit.com/dod-leak-feds-investigated-birx-fabricated-falsified-hiv-aids-vaccine-trials/

- Fauxi knew hydroxyxhloroquine could both cure and prevent corona viruses in 2005.  Passive aggressive on HCQ in 2020.  Intentional?

https://onenewsnow.com/perspectives/bryan-fischer/2020/04/27/fauci-knew-about-hcq-in-2005-nobody-needed-to-die

-”Fauxi” praised use of hydroxychloroquine in 2013 to treat the MERS corona virus.  Risky drug in 2020?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/wow-dr-fauci-cheered-hydroxychloroquine-success-treating-mers-coronavirus-2013-today-skeptical-weird/

 

COVER UP: Fauci Approved Chloroquine, Hydroxychloroquine 15 Years Ago to Cure Coronaviruses; “Nobody Needed to Die” – True Pundit

https://truepundit.com/cover-up-fauci-approved-chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine-15-years-ago-to-treat-nobody-needed-to-die

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/

-Fauxi funded research grants to Wuhan lab to fund risky virus research that was illegal in the U.S. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211291/U-S-government-gave-3-7million-grant-Wuhan-lab-experimented-coronavirus-source-bats.html

   

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/paid-for-the-damn-virus-thats-killing-us-giuliani-rips-fauci-over-grants-to-wuhan-laboratory

https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/04/breaking-kennedy-exposes-dr-faucis-role-in-creating-highly-infectious-mutant-strain-of-coronavirus/ ;

https://conservativedailypost.com/evidence-fauci-funded-virus-gain-of-function-study-making-transmission-to-humans-possible/

https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/why-us-outsourced-bat-virus-research-to-wuhan/

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741

-Fauxi in 2017: President Trump Will Be Challenged By a “Surprise Global Disease Outbreak”.  What did he know?

https://www.healio.com/infectious-disease/emerging-diseases/news/online/%7B85a3f9c0-ed0a-4be8-9ca2-8854b2be7d13%7D/fauci-no-doubt-trump-will-face-surprise-infectious-disease-outbreak

     

-Despite his 2017 prediction, Fauxi unprepared for 2020 pandemic.  By design?

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2020/04/02/america-unprepared-coronavirus-pandemic-what-do-about-covid-19/5109482002/

    

-In Jan 2020 interview, he said,  “... this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.” - intentional? 

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/03/flashback-fauci-coronavirus-us-threat-trump/

-Fauxi caught on video flip flopping on severity of the virus

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=59a0uGIFZGY

-Fauxi said masks do not work.       

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/preventing-coronavirus-facemask-60-minutes-2020-03-08/

-Fauxi in February said malls, gyms and movie theaters were OK.  Make us more vulnerable?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/update-fauci-said-cruises-ok-march-9-fauci-said-malls-movies-gyms-ok-feb-29-now-wants-blame-trump-failures/

  

-Fauxi in March said Americans cruises were OK.  Catch us with guard down?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/douggollan/2020/03/09/fauci-says-cruising-is-ok-if-you-are-healthy/#6f8eb5f62d4d

     

-Fauci on CNN Easter Sunday suggested President Trump should have shut down the country in February 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/dope-dr-fauci-says-trump-shut-economy-february-democrat-impeachment-sham/

-Fauxi exaggerated need for Hospital beds

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/faucis-follies-us-coronavirus-field-hospitals-shut-without-treating-single-patient-garbage-models-used-us-experts/

-Fauxi is front man for Big Pharma, pushing expensive new drugs that require tests and trials rather than inexpensive proven cures like HCQ+zinc+zpack that have been around for decades.  More time to let the virus spread?   

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/fauci_now_is_part_of_the_problem_not_part_of_the_solution.html

-Fauxi delaying tests of vaccines and cures 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/04/fauci_now_is_part_of_the_problem_not_part_of_the_solution.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/05/four_questions_senators_should_ask_redfield_and_fauci_on_tuesday.html

-Fauxi agenda is mandated vaccines to benefit Big Pharma and Bill Gates.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/8/anthony-fauci-sets-stage-mandatory-vaccine/

-Fauxi 100% wrong with exaggerated models

https://community.oilprice.com/topic/13016-us-surgeon-general-adams-dumps-bill-gates-who-cdc-%E2%80%98predictive-contagion%E2%80%99-model/

   

-Fauxi longtime relationship with corrupt WHO director, a communist-globalist with terrorist ties, who covers for the CCP  

https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/is-w-h-o-director-tedros-a-terrorist-global-ties-to-bill-gates-clinton-foundation-dr-fauci-china-and-genocide/

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fauci-who-head-really-outstanding-person

https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/is-w-h-o-director-tedros-a-terrorist-global-ties-to-bill-gates-clinton-foundation-dr-fauci-china-and-genocide/

-Fauxi endorses Tinder hookups

https://nypost.com/2020/04/15/fauci-endorses-tinder-hookups-with-a-caveat/

-Fauxi plotted ‘Global Vaccine Action Plan’ with depopulation advocate Bill Gates, pushing panic and doubts about HCQ.  Big Pharma $$$s.   

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OlUbR7U/dr-anthony-fauci-plotted-global-vaccine-action-plan-with-bill-gates-before-pushing-covid-panic-and-doubts-about-hydroxychloroquine-treatments

- Fauxi, May 2020 told National Geographic the virus did not originate in Chinese Lab.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/

 

-Fauxi wrong again on State of Georgia reopening

             

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/dr-fauci-wrong-coronavirus-cases-drop-new-lows-georgia-opens-state-lifts-lockdown-orders/

             

 

-Dr Birx now believes CDC inflating death numbers by as much as 25%.   distancing herself?

   

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-bombshell-report-dr-birx-believes-cdc-inflating-death-numbers-much

-First Case in US Treated with Remdesivir was January – Two Weeks Later China Was Mass Producing the Drug – The Firm Gilead Sciences and Dr. Fauci Are In the Middle

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/first-case-covid-19-us-treated-remdesivir-late-january-two-weeks-later-china-mass-producing-drug-firm-gilead-sciences-dr-fauci-middle
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Fauxi’s own NIH - Breakthrough: Chloroquine Phosphate Has Shown Apparent Efficacy in Treatment of COVID-19 Associated Pneumonia in Clinical Studies

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32074

https://mobile.twitter.com/99freemind/status/1243171622661521409/photo/2

Two Fauxi mistakes led to nationwide Lockdown

    

https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-two-mistakes-that-led-to-a-national-lockdown_3349318.html

Fauci and the Tuskegee Syphilis Study victims

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/05/dr_fauci_and_the_tuskegee_syphilis_study_victims.html#ixzz6MpATbmwS

Fauxi ties to Deep State, Soros, Gates, Clintons

https://youtu.be/KZmJ43hmHC8

Fauci caught in lie about inflammatory condition in children (May 2020)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/another-dr-fauci-lie-debunked-mysterious-inflammatory-condition-children-typical-every-year-13-100000-children-study/

Did Anthony Fauci’s promotion of dangerous research help create the COVID-19 pandemic?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/did-anthony-faucis-promotion-of-dangerous-research-help-create-the-covid-19-pandemic?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com&utm_campaign=a8ffd140b2-Daily%2520Headlines%2520-%2520U.S._COPY_782&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_12387f0e3e-a8ffd140b2-402230833

Fauxi takes off face mask when cameras are off

https://www.bitchute.com/video/8PutjswgshE4

Fauci Files: Celebrated doc’s career dotted with ethics, safety controversies inside NIH

https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/fauci-says-americans-should-trust-doctors-himself-his-career

All The Times Dr Fauci Was Wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkuzZAZ7YHI

Fauci tells the NFL they can’t play in the fall.

But next week he is throwing out the first pitch at the Washington Nationals opener.


15 posted on 08/02/2020 5:20:39 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Flick Lives

“Fauci lied, thousands died”.

I hope that catches on...


16 posted on 08/02/2020 5:30:46 AM PDT by RandFan (3C)
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To: Morpheus2009

NY 444,388 cases 32,773 deaths
FL 480,028 cases 7,022 deaths

As of yesterday


17 posted on 08/02/2020 6:06:00 AM PDT by mistfree (Virginia Freeper)
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To: RandFan

I linked a chart the other day that showed percentages of many things and two of them were increases in testing and increases in cases (2 week rolling average).

The increases in cases was vastly higher than increases in testing in recent resurgent states. It’s NOT just the testing!


18 posted on 08/02/2020 6:19:58 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

The facts are that the actual numbers (not percentages) of people being hospitalized or dying from Covid-19 are small. Significantly less than the nationwide daily numbers from heart disease.

Our mortality rate as of last week was 3.3%, the lowest in the developed world and below South Korea. And the vast majority of those were people, like Dr. Ben Carson, who had significant co-morbidities and were elderly.

Those are “just the facts”.


19 posted on 08/02/2020 6:38:23 AM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: RandFan

Fauci has earned his place as a major historical figure—in the tradition of Benedict Arnold, Alger Hiss and Julius Rosenberg.


20 posted on 08/02/2020 6:53:43 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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