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Historical Ignorance and Confederate Generals
Townhall.com ^ | July 22, 2020 | Walter E. Williams

Posted on 07/22/2020 3:14:43 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 07/22/2020 3:14:43 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Amen to that.

We do not teach our kids this anymore but it was tremendously distressing to hear a US general spout such bs.


2 posted on 07/22/2020 3:22:30 AM PDT by Adder ("Can you be more stupid?" is a question, not a challenge.)
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To: Kaslin

Deo Vindice


3 posted on 07/22/2020 3:23:26 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Kaslin
Dr. Williams is wiser than General Millie. 🇺🇸
4 posted on 07/22/2020 3:27:47 AM PDT by Laslo Fripp (The Sybil of Free Republic)
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To: Kaslin
Those who label Robert E. Lee and other Confederate generals as traitors might also label George Washington a traitor.

In the eyes of Great Britain, Washington was a traitor. Or wasn't Williams aware of that?

5 posted on 07/22/2020 3:38:56 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Kaslin

“Confederate generals fought for independence from the Union just as George Washington fought for independence from Great Britain.”

Had the 13 Colonies lost the war of against Great Britain, the charge against George Washington would have been treason.

The Confederacy lost the war against the United States, the charge of treason against the principal Confederate leaders, is not unreasonable to consider.


6 posted on 07/22/2020 3:42:25 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Kaslin; BroJoeK; OIFVeteran; rockrr; DoodleDawg

This history lesson by a patriotic Black man is a must read.


7 posted on 07/22/2020 3:42:28 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem
This history lesson by a patriotic Black man is a must read.

Is it now?

8 posted on 07/22/2020 3:43:27 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Kaslin

the ratification of the constitution was not the moment these independent states joined together, they had already done that years before by ratifying the Articles of Confederation.

history is written by those who ultimately succeed. So we ignore the articles.

We’d be ignoring the Declaration too if GB had put down the insurrection in their colonies. Our true independence came when GB lost the will to continue the fight with their superior resources, perhaps Yorktown is the closest thing to the actuak moment we achieved independence.


9 posted on 07/22/2020 3:43:32 AM PDT by ChronicMA
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President Dwight D. Eisenhower in Defense of Robert E. Lee....

August 9, 1960

Dear Dr. Scott:

Respecting your August 1 inquiry calling attention to my often expressed admiration for General Robert E. Lee, I would say, first, that we need to understand that at the time of the War between the States the issue of secession had remained unresolved for more than 70 years. Men of probity, character, public standing and unquestioned loyalty, both North and South, had disagreed over this issue as a matter of principle from the day our Constitution was adopted.

General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America; he was a poised and inspiring leader, true to the high trust reposed in him by millions of his fellow citizens; he was thoughtful yet demanding of his officers and men, forbearing with captured enemies but ingenious, unrelenting and personally courageous in battle, and never disheartened by a reverse or obstacle. Through all his many trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his faith in God. Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history.

From deep conviction, I simply say this: a nation of men of Lee’s calibre would be unconquerable in spirit and soul. Indeed, to the degree that present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities, including his devotion to this land as revealed in his painstaking efforts to help heal the Nation’s wounds once the bitter struggle was over, we, in our own time of danger in a divided world, will be strengthened and our love of freedom sustained.

Such are the reasons that I proudly display the picture of this great American on my office wall.

Sincerely,

Dwight D. Eisenhower


10 posted on 07/22/2020 3:44:58 AM PDT by scpolitician
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"Confederate generals fought for independence from the Union just as George Washington fought for independence from Great Britain."

What an obvious but brilliant point.

11 posted on 07/22/2020 3:45:31 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: Bull Snipe

“Had the 13 Colonies lost the war of against Great Britain, the charge against George Washington would have been treason.”

And the Declaration of Independence, in advance, cut the ground from beneath any such charge by the King: “A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant . . .”


12 posted on 07/22/2020 3:48:11 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Bull Snipe

Uh...yes it is unreasonable.

It was discussed and rejected at the time.
See: https://www.civilwarprofiles.com/grant-protects-lee-from-treason-trial/


13 posted on 07/22/2020 3:58:24 AM PDT by Adder ("Can you be more stupid?" is a question, not a challenge.)
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To: Kaslin

The Confederates were more American than the Yankees. They were defending the founding principles. Their cause was ultimately a second American Revolution.


14 posted on 07/22/2020 4:06:13 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is solving the world's problems only to distract us from Russia.)
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To: Kaslin

All of the Confederate soldiers were given amnesty including, after some controversy, Jefferson Davis, the President of the Confederacy and a West Point graduate. Confederate soldiers were allowed to receive pensions, albeit funded by their respective states. Calling them traitors today is revisionist history. They were pardoned by President Johnson.

There was an effort at the end of the war to come together as a people. At the end of Lincoln’s Second Inaugural speech, he said,

“With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation’s wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan to do all which may achieve and cherish a just, and a lasting peace, among ourselves, and all nations.“


15 posted on 07/22/2020 4:07:25 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Adder
It was discussed and rejected at the time.

If you read the Surrender Document and the Parole Document neither specifically protects the rebel soldiers from treason charges after the rebellion. But Grant did believe that such protections were implied and he was willing to go to the mat to protect Lee and others. It was a most honorable position to take, and Johnson eventually came around to that way of thinking when he issued his amnesty proclamations.

16 posted on 07/22/2020 4:09:08 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: scpolitician

Great find. It should be disseminated widely.


17 posted on 07/22/2020 4:10:58 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Kaslin

Bkmk


18 posted on 07/22/2020 4:11:34 AM PDT by sauropod (I will not comply.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant
The Confederates were more American than the Yankees.

Were they now?

They were defending the founding principles.

Which were?

19 posted on 07/22/2020 4:11:42 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: jeffersondem
And the Declaration of Independence, in advance, cut the ground from beneath any such charge by the King...

Did it now?

20 posted on 07/22/2020 4:12:34 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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