Posted on 07/19/2020 1:36:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
US President Donald Trump declined to say the Confederate flag was an offensive symbol in an interview broadcast on Sunday, saying it is a source of pride for people who love the South.
The Republican president was asked on Fox News Sunday if the flag, a symbol of US slavery and white supremacy for many Americans, was offensive.
“It depends on who you’re talking about, when you’re talking about,” Trump responded. “When people proudly had their Confederate flags they’re not talking about racism. They love their flag, it represents the South. They like the South … I say it’s freedom of many things, but it’s freedom of speech.”
Trump has in the past appeared sympathetic to the flag and symbols of the Confederacy of the 1861-65 Civil War.
In 2017, he criticised the removal of monuments to the Confederacy and said there were “very fine people on both sides” of a deadly clash in Charlottesville, Virginia, over the removal of a statue of Confederate General Robert E Lee.
Earlier this month, he criticised NASCAR’s ban of the Confederate flag from its events.
Breaking with several of his fellow Republicans in Congress, Trump has promised to veto the annual National Defense Authorisation Act over an amendment to remove the names of Confederate generals from military bases within a year.
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Well said.
Embrace the suck you “fake offended” leftists.
I’m born and raised in New England. I couldn’t agree with you more.
“So did the War of Southern Rebellion. Remember it and honor the winners, not the losers.”
So did the American Colonial Rebellion. We get to honor who we feel like.
Southerners are patriotic but we cherish and are proud of our heritage. Progressives know that the South is the only area of the country that has a separate pride and cohesiveness and the entire US will be easier prey if and when they destroy the pride and patriotism that is embedded within the South. The vilification by Levin, Beck and others is counterproductive to their statements as when or if the South is gone, the entire US is gone. I am proud of my ancestors that fought for both the North and South.
Spot on
The left hands him issues on a platter besides the ones you mention
Stick to those. HAMMER BIDEN and the DIMS
Give the “swing voters” plenty of reasons to NOT VOTE DEMOCRAT
the list is a mile long
Do the British honor Washington, Adams, Hancock, or Jefferson?
That is certainly true, and they were much closer to the circumstances at the time than we are today. But there is another dimension to the understanding reached in the 1860s.
Slavery may have only existed in the southern states at that point, but many a northern fortune was made as a direct result of the labor of the slaves. In fact, Lowell Massachusetts was formed to make cotton cloth from the cotton picked by slaves. All of those early Massachusetts businessmen made their fortunes off of the labor of slaves.
So should we stop flying the Massachusetts State Flag? Should we no longer have a city named Lowell? And what about Lawrence, MA, and its founding as a center for textiles?
The now pious liberals of Massachusetts and other northern states have just as much of a history with slavery as do the residents of the south. However, unlike the people of the south some of the residents of Massachusetts are still spending the trust funds that were created with money earned from making cotton picked by slaves.
Of course the leftists looking to revisit history and destroy traditions aren't about to look at their own ancestors' part in the whole situation.
“Go to another country if you hate the US so much, seems like you have that in common with the left.”
Funny. The actual Left in the form of Karl Marx, Frederick Engels and their fellow 48er comrades hated the South and were fans of Lincoln and Union.
Marx wrote columns on the war for Horace Greeley’s New-York Tribune, the top Republican party newspaper of the day. For some reason a lot of today’s South haters choose to ignore that and try to turn history on its head. Go figure.
https://isreview.org/issue/80/karl-marx-and-american-civil-war
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/iwma/documents/1864/lincoln-letter.htm
I have never lived south of Brooklyn NY. When I was a boy growing up, when we sang patriotic songs in school, we sang “Dixie” and “Bonnie Blue Flag” along with the others, because we were all Americans.
I’m afraid those days are over.
“A black Confederate soldier proudly holding his Confederate flag is offensive?“
Why does he have to be black?
What so many of the South-bashers never admit is that slavery existed far longer under the Stars and Stripes (almost 90 years) than under the Confederacy’s Stars and Bars (which in fact is quite similar in design to Old Glory, and existed for less than five years). But, the flag they are so incensed about was a BATTLE flag, not a national flag.
I’m American by birth and Southern by heritage, and I love both.
I think so,
It shows he
Understands
The First Amendment!
This faction has agreed with that position since 1861:
https://isreview.org/issue/80/karl-marx-and-american-civil-war
“THE CIVIL War is the defining event in the history of the United States, yet also the most misunderstood. More books are written on this war than on any period of US history, yet for all the words poured across the pages, the real cause of the war—slavery—is usually missed or obscured. Rather, there are tales of chivalrous Confederate generals heroically leading charges, drunken Union generals butchering their men in horrible frontal assaults, brothers fighting brothers in a pointless war that ravaged the land and wounded a people. Was the Civil War just a tragic mistake? A war like any other imperialist war the United States ruling class has its soldiers fighting in today? While some answer these questions with a yes, Karl Marx and Frederick Engels would have been taken aback. They would have resoundingly answered “no.” The Civil War, they believed, was not just another horrible atrocity, but rather a revolution that ended slavery and destroyed the slave-owners’ power as a class.
“Marx and Engels saw the events leading to the Civil War as momentous. In a January 1861 letter to Engels, written after the election of Republican candidate Abraham Lincoln, but before his inauguration, Marx wrote, “In my opinion, the biggest things that are happening in the world today are on the one hand the movement of the slaves in America started by the death of John Brown, and on the other the movement of the serfs in Russia.”
“During the war, Karl Marx and Frederick Engels contributed dozens of insightful articles for the New York Tribune and, later, for the Viennese Die Presse on political and military issues. Engels specialized on the military strategy of the Lincoln administration and that of the Confederate Jefferson Davis rebel government. Karl Marx had a more sweeping look at the conflict, from the economic development of the nation to the actions of the political and military leaders. Overall, Marx had a better grasp on the whole war. Both men saw the war as an extension of the American Revolution of 1776. Marx and Engels argued that Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation and the North’s arming of Black soldiers transformed the Civil War from a purely constitutional war to preserve the country with slavery intact, into a revolutionary war. They did not characterize the Civil War as a socialist revolutionary war, but they believed that it advanced the cause of all workers, both white and Black, by destroying chattel slavery. The revolution armed former slaves, destroyed the horrendous institution of slavery without compensation to the slave-owners, and opened the way for a struggle between the working class and the capitalist class. As a result, our next revolution in this country will be a working-class revolution.
I’m saving the First posting for Later,
This is great Education!
Thanks for posting
The Link.
“And the Confederate flag obviously represents the Confederacy...”
Your quotes remind me of Lincoln’s.
As a poster pointed out, the American flag flew over slavery many, many years.
I grew up in the South and the Confederacy was never, and I mean, NEVER, mentioned. The flag was, of course, because it was part of the Southern identity. Which is why it flew unmolested for almost a hundred and fifty years before self-righteous snowflakes like you listened to some malcontents.
So?
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