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Blow to Erdogan as US boots Turkey out of F-35 strike fighter program
Arab News ^ | 7/19/2020 | Menekse Tokyay

Posted on 07/19/2020 7:02:31 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

Turkey’s contribution to the F-35 fighter jets’ supply chain was suspended following its receipt of parts of the S-400 surface-to-air defense system last July.

But the system has not yet been made operational, although Turkey has also refused to give up the S-400 completely. It even tested its radar system in Ankara against some of its air force’s US-made F-16 fighter jets last November.

However, the activation of the S-400 missile system that was scheduled for April is still delayed. Turkey has also been banned by the US from ordering F-35s for its air force.

The only condition for Ankara to become a contributor again and feature in the F-35 list is to move the system outside the country because F-35s cannot coexist with a Russian intelligence gathering platform that might detect their stealth capabilities and harm the long-term security of the alliance by spying on the jets.

Turkey’s industrial engagement in the F-35 program brought a significant economic boost to the country, with 10 contributing companies supplying more than 900 parts worth about $12 billion.

(Excerpt) Read more at arabnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; erdogan; f35; kurdistan; nato; receptayyiperdogan; turkey
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1 posted on 07/19/2020 7:02:31 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Why is Turkey a member of NATO? It should be clear the government does not support western values.


2 posted on 07/19/2020 7:07:00 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Wait. I thought you’d WANT people you don’t like to blow their cash on F35s.


3 posted on 07/19/2020 7:07:18 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

The pseudo-one-hand-loving-self Erdogan pouts.

Po’ baby!


4 posted on 07/19/2020 7:10:42 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Good. They’re clearly no longer ally.


5 posted on 07/19/2020 7:15:32 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Seruzawa

Don’t fall for the “F-35 is a failed program” crap. It is an extremely capable strike fighter, and getting more so as software updates are rolled out.

What it isn’t, and was never meant to be, is an air superiority fighter like the F-22.


6 posted on 07/19/2020 7:17:04 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Great news! Thanks for posting.

https://banned.video/watch?id=5da10d05495b790015825133

HOORAY Chief. When have we WITNESSED such compassion in ANY politician?

The military/industrial/media/medical complex is very tough to overcome.


7 posted on 07/19/2020 7:18:47 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Erdogan aside, it was lunacy to begin with to have a “global” supply chain for the F-35.


8 posted on 07/19/2020 7:20:11 AM PDT by buckalfa (Please forgive my feeble attempts at humor, Appalachian education, and condescending snarkiness.)
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To: Yo-Yo
Don’t fall for the “F-35 is a failed program” crap. It is an extremely capable strike fighter, and getting more so as software updates are rolled out.

According to this military website, it lost dogfights.


9 posted on 07/19/2020 7:22:26 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (What if the Lord sent COVID-19 to immunize the world from something more deadly?)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Turkeys were never meant to soar with eagles.


10 posted on 07/19/2020 7:26:12 AM PDT by himno hero (had'nff)
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To: Islander7

In WW2 Turkey was a staunch ally as well as being a secular country which is rare in the Mideast. They were admitted to NATO and were a good member until recently when Erdogan took over and began to build his caliphate. Unless things change soon we will have to kick Turkey out of NATO.


11 posted on 07/19/2020 7:28:50 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Islander7

Agree...I believe we have some strategic assets planted there.


12 posted on 07/19/2020 7:29:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: MuttTheHoople
1. Re-read what I wrote about the F-35 not meant to be an air superiority fighter.

2. Look at the date of the article you posted. That was written when the F-35 flight control software was still being developed, and the F-35 was limited to 3G turns. Today it can pull sustained 9G turns, limited only by what the pilot can sustain.

3. Read this article; https://www.businessinsider.com/f-35-once-beaten-by-f-16s-shows-stunt-turns-older-jets-cant-touch-2019-1

13 posted on 07/19/2020 7:36:58 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: MuttTheHoople

>>According to this military website, it lost dogfights.<<

LOL! It says the F35 is designed for BVR and that is why it lost to a WW I (yes, I) Red Baron Fokker.

Sounds like the F16 continues to be the best MRF (no surprise).

Based on that article, the F35 could be replaced by a drone.


14 posted on 07/19/2020 7:38:59 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Do not mistake activity for achievement." - John Wooden)
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To: MuttTheHoople

“Lockheed officials have separately downplayed reports that the same F-35, flown by the same pilot, previously lost mock dogfights with the Goodyear Blimp and a beagle on a flying doghouse.

Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Mark A. Welsh III declined comment through a spokesman, saying only, “Curse you, Red Baron!”


15 posted on 07/19/2020 7:48:02 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( Experience is the best teacher, but if you can accept it 2nd hand, the tuition is less!)
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To: Islander7

Turks are never to be trusted. Genocidal maniacs.

Servants of a violent false prophet.

Remember the Armenian genocide.

Remember the million Greeks of Asia Minor.

The Turks are a murdering “Midnight Express” Culture.

See the movie. It’s not a propaganda film.

The Turks will kill you.


16 posted on 07/19/2020 8:12:33 AM PDT by Chuck N
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To: Georgia Girl 2

> In WW2 Turkey was a staunch ally

They didn’t declare war on Germany until well into 1945. The war’s result was a done deal by then.


17 posted on 07/19/2020 8:12:51 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau

Read a history book.


18 posted on 07/19/2020 8:14:57 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: himno hero

“soar with eagles”

Bump


19 posted on 07/19/2020 8:22:15 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Georgia Girl 2
> Read a history book.

turkey declaration of war on germany

Even Wikipedia knows this:

During World War II, Turkey maintained diplomatic relations with Germany until August 1944. The German–Turkish Treaty of Friendship was signed on 18 June 1941. ... Turkey severed its diplomatic and commercial relations with Germany, and on February 23, 1945, declared war on Germany....

20 posted on 07/19/2020 8:24:16 AM PDT by glorgau
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