States Ordered To Fraudulently Inflate COVID-19 Cases 15 Times Actual Rate

Banned Video ^ | 06/29/20

[Enlightened1]

The National Institue of Health (NIH) is lowering the State Covid 19 standards to inflate the Covid 19 number of cases.

If 1 person tests positive for Covid 19, then they say 15 additional people in the computer model are said to have Covid 19.  Thus, possibles, as of the middle of May 2020, are now Covid cases.  This is going on across all the States.  

In addition the States will say people are Covid 19 even if they were not tested.... If one of these 15 people die, then they say it is because of Covid 19 and not the real reason (heart attack, car accident, etc...).  This is why we are seeing a spike in Covid 19 cases.

The NIH lawyers do this by adding the operative word "probable" to actual cases.  Thus, for every 1 new actual positive case, then you get an additonal 15 "probable" cases for a grand total of 16 people.  A probable case in a Covid 19 case is declared "positive" Covid 19 case. They are playing word games folks.  

 

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[Pride in the USA]

This is madness.

[khelus]

on here is definition of probable case:

https://wwwn.cdc.gov/nndss/conditions/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/case-definition/2020/

and here is definition various criteria:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/faq-surveillance.html

[daniel1212]

Where? Give an example of a state who's daily new case count includes probables based on a formula.

The question should be give me an example of a state who's daily new case count does not includes probables based on a formula, as from April 15, 2020 US virus numbers now include probable cases without tests, since that is what CDC guideline include.

Click on About the data in the CDC page here:

As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths. This change was made to reflect an interim COVID-19 position statement pdf iconexternal iconissued by the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists on April 5, 2020.

And which PDF states,

A probable case or death is defined by one of the following:

• Meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19
• Meeting presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence
• Meeting vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID19

Not all jurisdictions report confirmed and probable cases and deaths to CDC. When not available to CDC, it is noted as N/A.

What Clinical Criteria and epidemiologic evidence means, respectively, is explained in the probable case or deathlink:

CSTE realizes that field investigations will involve evaluations of persons with no symptoms and these individuals will need to be counted as cases.

Clinical Criteria

At least two of the following symptoms: fever (measured or subjective), chills, rigors, myalgia, headache, sore throat, new olfactory and taste disorder(s)

OR

At least one of the following symptoms: cough, shortness of breath, or difficulty breathing

OR

Severe respiratory illness with at least one of the following:

• Clinical or radiographic evidence of pneumonia, OR
• Acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS).

AND

No alternative more likely diagnosis

Epidemiologic Linkage

One or more of the following exposures in the 14 days before onset of symptoms:

• Close contact** with a confirmed or probable case of COVID-19 disease; OR
• Close contact** with a person with:
  • clinically compatible illness AND
  • linkage to a confirmed case of COVID-19 disease.
• Travel to or residence in an area with sustained, ongoing community transmission of SARS-CoV-2.
• Member of a risk cohort as defined by public health authorities during an outbreak.

**Close contact is defined as being within 6 feet for at least a period of 10 minutes to 30 minutes or more depending upon the exposure. In healthcare settings, this may be defined as exposures of greater than a few minutes or more. Data are insufficient to precisely define the duration of exposure that constitutes prolonged exposure and thus a close contact.

Which among other scenarios, means that a persons that may be listed as a COVID-19 case include "persons with no symptoms" but who had "close contact" (6 feet for at least a period of 10 minutes to 30 minutes or more) with "a probable case of COVID-19" infection - which can merely mean a person for which is expected "presumptive laboratory evidence " and who exhibits one of the epidemiologic evidences, meaning even just "one of the following symptoms: cough, shortness of breath, or difficulty breathing." Or who had a linkage a "Member of a risk cohort as defined by public health authorities during an outbreak."

And with money being involved, then liberal attribution of COVID-19 cases and deaths should be presumed in this fallen world, the reaction to it is unprecedented in America.

Does COVID-19 truly warrant a nationwide shutdown?

[semimojo]

A probable case or death is defined by one of the following:

• Meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19

• Meeting presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence

• Meeting vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID19

Right - if they have symptoms or there's other direct evidence of infection.

Where's the part about your fanciful formula that multiples positive tests by 15?

[Freee-dame]

And the CDC continually adds to the list of symptoms. These are the same symptoms as for a common cold, the flu and many other ailments.

[Secret Agent Man]

they are setting groundwork for their contact tracers to be able to issue quarrantine orders for the people they want to imprison in their houses for two weeks or longer.

around election time

[jeffc]

Thanks!

[Secret Agent Man]

which is why they also are throwing it out there now they estimate the cases will spike in october and november

conveniently around election time

so you cant go in person

and then the mail will lose your ballot

[radu]

They started listing cases and deaths in TN this way earlier this month and I’ve been cussing them for it. It’s such a blatant lie.

[Fai Mao]

“You mean like China?! Heavens to mergatroid!”

Yes. Maliciously China undercounts. But other places that either can’t count or just do not bother or that do not have the governmental infrastructure to test and catalog. Most of Central and S. America, MOst of Africa, and the non-Australia part of Australasia. Do we really know how many people have this disease in Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, and places like Cambodia and even Thailand?

I seriously doubt any of those places have any real idea of the extent of the infection in the population

[desertfreedom765]

The intent of this virus was to destroy the economy and Trump's reelection.

It was mishandled from the outbreak. In March Newsome said 50 percent of California would have the virus within 3 or 4 months. Pure fear tactics.

But the virus is real and is killing people. To pretend otherwise is ignorant.

Telling people it is a nothing-burger is no different morally than Como putting sick patients in nursing homes to drive up the body count. Both of them will increase the death count. (needlessly)

[lizma2]

“How many people had their cancer go from early stage and easily treatable to late stage and fatal because they couldn’t get tested / treats.”

Went to a funeral last week where the woman had stomach pains but was afraid to go to the doc or ER. Finally the pain became so severe her family forced her to go to the ER. She had severe pancreatitis, 48 hours later she died.

[Okeydoker]

Actually the criteria listed makes complete sense in order to label something PROBABLE.

Probable,Means just that. It doesn’t mean possible, and it doesn’t mean actual positive.

Hills complaint is absurd. That’s what happens when politics starts to infest common sense.

[Okeydoker]

Not exactly. They are labeling PROBABLE for cases where the test results are pending. When the test results come in they either go into POSITIVE or negative,

The early classification may have been haphazard but now everyone seems to be on the same page regarding reporting .

[Ratman0823]

What gets me is that the guy who committed suicide with two bullets to the back of the head gets counted as a COVID death if his post-mortem blood tests showed the virus.

[daniel1212]

Meeting vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID19

Right - if they have symptoms or there's other direct evidence of infection.

No, there need be no direct evidence of infection, since the criteria for probably cases includes "vital records criteria," which can merely be "A death certificate that lists COVID-19 disease or SARS-CoV-2 as a cause of death or a significant condition contributing to death," but which attribution does not mean "confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID19." For the CDC guidelines for listing COVID19 as the “probable” or “presumed” cause of death allow for this " If the certifier suspects COVID-19 or determines it was likely (e.g., the circumstances were compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty).

In addition, Presumptive laboratory evidence means, Detection of specific antigen in a clinical specimen Detection of specific antibody in serum, plasma, or whole blood indicative of a new or recent infection," but which are yet to be defined, and the accuracy of COVID-19 tests still largely unknown, the accuracy of COVID-19 tests are still largely unknown , and some persons can continue to test positive for COVID-19 after 60 days after being infected.

Thus "Meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence" to list COVID-19 as a probable cause allows for (under clinical criteria) "one of the following symptoms: cough, shortness of breath, or difficulty breathing" and with "No alternative more likely diagnosis" and under epidemiologic evidence "Close contact** with a confirmed or probable case of COVID-19 disease," which can mean being within 6 feet for at least a period of 10 minutes to 30 minutes or more with a person who has long ceased to be infectious.

Where's the part about your fanciful formula that multiples positive tests by 15?

That was not my claim, but that inflated figures (for death) are to be expected.

[semimojo]

No, there need be no direct evidence of infection, since the criteria for probably cases includes....

OK. There may be a few cases where Covid was the probable cause of death on the death certificate but it was actually something else. There may also be a few where the patient has beaten the disease yet still tests positive.

Do you honestly believe those categories represent a material portion of the daily reported new cases?

That was not my claim, but that inflated figures (for death) are to be expected.

In the first post you responded to I asked for evidence of a formula-driven case reporting regime (the original poster said it was confirmed cases x 15). I've yet to see any such evidence.

[khelus]

RE “How many people had their cancer go from early stage and easily treatable to late stage and fatal because they couldn’t get tested / treats.” [error treats = treatments]

Went to a funeral last week where the woman had stomach pains but was afraid to go to the doc or ER. Finally the pain became so severe her family forced her to go to the ER. She had severe pancreatitis, 48 hours later she died.

***
How awful. Just like with AIDS, Fauci, Birx, and Redfield have a great deal to account for.

Here’s a great video to pass around about the ‘real’ costs of the lock down as compared to the deaths:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZqGSnVt8c8&feature=emb_rel_end

[lonevoice]

So much bad science is happening (both intentionally and inadvertently) that it’s made it impossible to know with any degree of accuracy or certainty what’s actually happening. I read today that some of the covid antibody tests being used will test positive for antibodies to the common cold caused by coronavirus. I also heard that some doctors are reporting that newly-opened covid-19 test kits are already showing positive before they’ve even been used. On the other hand, some states, such as Arizona, are reporting that ICU’s are being overwhelmed with new covid-19 patients. I think most of the reported covid-19 spikes are occurring in both nursing homes and metropolitan areas that have been subjected to massive BLM “protests” (riots). How many of those “protestors” also work in or interact with nursing homes? It’s all madness, with no end to the insanity in sight.

[daniel1212]

OK. There may be a few cases where Covid was the probable cause of death on the death certificate but it was actually something else. There may also be a few where the patient has beaten the disease yet still tests positive.

Do you honestly believe those categories represent a material portion of the daily reported new cases? New cases or deaths? Yes, I believer there are many many cases where the patient has beaten the disease or is no longer infectious yet still tests positive, and that tests themselves are not significantly in error, and that Covid19 is liberally attributed in any case. And considering that about 80% of cases are estimated to be asymptomatic or as needing no professional help (I most likely had it months ago, thank God, otherwise I failed to contract it - at 68 - despite being in daily close contact with others outside without a mask), and relative few are tested, then I believe that there are far more cases than reported, and thus far less deaths per million. CFR vs. IFR.

In the first post you responded to I asked for evidence of a formula-driven case reporting regime (the original poster said it was confirmed cases x 15). I've yet to see any such evidence.

You asked "Give an example of a state who's daily new case count includes probables based on a formula" and I was responding to this as regards the CDC formula for attributing COVID19. Sorry for the confusion.