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We Need to Take a Hard Look at Nursing-Home Policies
National Review ^ | May 11, 2020 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 05/11/2020 3:34:39 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat

...On March 30, the American Health Care Association and National Center for Assisted Living issued updated guidelines, based upon CDC findings, declaring that, “unless a person is tested for COVID-19 and negative before admitting them to your building, you should assume the person has COVID-19 regardless of their having or not having symptoms . . . We strongly urge [long-term-care] facilities to begin now creating separate wings, units or floors by moving current residents to handle admissions from the hospital and keep current resident separate, if possible.” This was typed out in bright red font for emphasis...

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chinavirus; criminalnegligence; negligence; nursinghomes
Many studies need to be done on how the nursing home situation was handled. Some states deserve kudos. And others, well....
1 posted on 05/11/2020 3:34:39 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat
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To: CheshireTheCat

Cuomo CAUSED the deaths in nursing homes on purpose
1. To get rid of people who are a drain on the system.
2. The state got an additional $39,000 for each Covid death.
3. To eliminate the link to our free past.
4. To get his hands on their estate taxes.

Yes, I believe he is that cold.


2 posted on 05/11/2020 3:49:32 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyrants don't just give you your freedoms back. You have to take them.)
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To: CheshireTheCat; All

“Some states deserve kudos.”

Wisconsin does!

I haven’t seen my Dad in 9 weeks, now! The Middleton, WI facility he is in locked it down a full 10 days before they had to. They took that memo seriously! I was there that Friday when they were locking things down; since I’m one of those PITA family members who shows up all the time, they let me in that one last time, though I had to have my temperature taken and my time with him was limited.

I am more than thrilled with the care he’s getting, and they were pro-active from the start. Not a single case among staff or residents. (’Inmates’ as Dad calls them, LOL!)

They’ve set up Skype and Facetime and all sorts of ways for us to communicate, but for Dad & I (he’s pretty much blind) the phone works best. It takes him a while to remember who I am, where he is and why, etc. Every conversation is the same now as he goes further down the Dementia Rabbit Hole. He’s also dealing with advanced cancer. It’s just a matter of time according to the Oncologist. Just keeping him pain-free is all I want for now. :(

I get a call every few days about the facility as to what is going on and how everyone is. I can call him any time and they always get a phone in his hands so he can talk to me. Again, I really miss seeing him; even if he doesn’t know who I am, I know who he is. :)

Again, very impressed and I wish EVERY facility was run like the one my Dad is in because I know there are places where people are NOT getting the care and dignity they deserve in their last years and I know so many facilities were used as ‘Covid Dumping Grounds’ and I would truly like those Governors kicked squarely in the @ss! :(


3 posted on 05/11/2020 3:54:11 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

In EVERY state and EVERY nation that I can find information for, nursing homes were grossly mismanaged by the authorities. Federal. State. Local. and the Nursing Home Owners themselves.

Everywhere, there was no serious attempt to keep virus carriers* out of nursing homes. Instead the staff was allowed to commute from home daily. Even by subway.
Any half-wit could predict what would happen, and it did.

Staff should have been required that they needed to remain on site, or at nearby accommodations, 24 hours a day for, say, one month periods. The compliance would be strictly monitored, using ankle bracelets, and any failure to comply would result in immediate termination.

Would staff members be willing to comply? Of course. If they were incentivized. A bonus of $10,000 per month, would attract scads of people of modest income, who would see it as a chance to get a start in life.


4 posted on 05/11/2020 3:54:43 PM PDT by OVERTIME (TAMMIE LEE HAYNES)
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We have to look at the whole concept of huge nursing homes. Many people could be taken care of at home - and there’s certainly enough people who’d like a job like that. I have family in NYC - Including a 93 yr old - and the home health aide comes every day to take care of her, etc.

And people do have to be allowed to visit. The 96 year old woman in France who wrote that she’d rather die because she hadn’t seen anybody from her family for three months and she didn’t even know why was the one who convinced the French to go back to permitting family visits.

There’s more to life than just breathing in and out.


5 posted on 05/11/2020 3:58:37 PM PDT by livius
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To: CheshireTheCat
nursing homes have great leeway in who they accept as patients...

ironically, if they send an elderly nursing home patient to our hospital with the flu, they MUST complete their tamiflu dosing until the NH will take them back....

if they were ordered to take back positive covid NH patients, what were they supposed to do.....they took them back...

OTOH, recovering covid NH patients just can't be left in the hospital taking up space for others....

a separate housing unit should have been created to take these NH patients, one where all the patients were positive covid...instead of placing them with other NH patients that remaind healthy and free of covid......

6 posted on 05/11/2020 3:59:03 PM PDT by cherry
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To: OVERTIME

People go to work to earn money, but people have families. They aren’t going to not see their own family to be caretakers of others people’s families.


7 posted on 05/11/2020 4:01:32 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: livius
There’s more to life than just breathing in and out.

Many FREARpers have confused existence with living.

8 posted on 05/11/2020 4:11:50 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: CheshireTheCat
Many studies need to be done on how the nursing home situation was handled. Some states deserve kudos. And others, well....

"Studies" will show what we already know: no one wants to take care of their oldsters. SO, these "oldster" facilities are packed and more are needed.

The "baby boomers," born between 1946-1964, WILL eventually die out. Then the "youngsters" today will come up with their own problems.

Nothing new.

9 posted on 05/11/2020 4:23:37 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: livius
We have to look at the whole concept of huge nursing homes. Many people could be taken care of at home - and there’s certainly enough people who’d like a job like that. I have family in NYC - Including a 93 yr old - and the home health aide comes every day to take care of her, etc.
And people do have to be allowed to visit. The 96 year old woman in France who wrote that she’d rather die because she hadn’t seen anybody from her family for three months and she didn’t even know why was the one who convinced the French to go back to permitting family visits.
There’s more to life than just breathing in and out.

Good private, individual, at-home care cost $6,000.00/month. I'm sure there is cheaper care...but THAT would involve an institution.

10 posted on 05/11/2020 4:27:14 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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TX Gov. Abbott has now ordered testing for nursing homes.


11 posted on 05/11/2020 4:55:26 PM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Too late - the Tidal Wave of Law suits is heading at all of these nursing homes that listed Covid for every death. A lawyer on WLW said the law suits will put many nursing homes out of business.


12 posted on 05/11/2020 5:18:29 PM PDT by EC Washington
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To: livius

I’m hoping AI robots will be perfected by the time I need assistance.

Better that than being assisted by someone who got their degree from a “Math & Science Academy”.


13 posted on 05/11/2020 5:28:31 PM PDT by Ken H (Best SOTU ever!)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Keep in mind, a lot of them run on low budgets, hiring whoever they can find. Here in Missouri, outside of the city, they start them out just above minimum wage, $8 or so. Meanwhile, fast food and walmart pay better. Get three certifications over a few years and you might be around $10/hr but employee training is a joke. Certifications just teach you about meds and health stuff but not outbreaks. Very narrow in scope.

Hopefully some things will change from this.


14 posted on 05/11/2020 6:06:06 PM PDT by Pollard (whatever)
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