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Virus will go away even without vaccine: US President Donald Trump
Business Line ^ | 05/11/2020 | Prashasti Awasthi

Posted on 05/11/2020 9:13:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Blood of Tyrants

and what will be keeping them from releasing it again... or something new and more deadly


21 posted on 05/11/2020 9:43:35 AM PDT by DOC44
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To: SeekAndFind
Trump just knows things....he just has a sense of things....he seems to have a deep reliable critical thinking ability..

I will say that this virus, like all others will subside but it never really goes away....like all other viruses....

life is like that....

22 posted on 05/11/2020 9:49:35 AM PDT by cherry
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To: SeekAndFind
It is a virus. The common cold is a virus. How long have they been searching for a cure for it? Seem like forever and they still don't have one.

The yearly flu shot is just that, a shot. It is not a vaccine because it is different each year. Sometimes it works and other times it does not.

Tetanus has a vaccine. It last a long time and is effective. Measles has a vaccine and it is effective. And so on.

Simply, there isn't going to be a vaccine for this virus. A shot, maybe!

23 posted on 05/11/2020 9:58:45 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: DOC44

Herd immunity will prevent a second outbreak of the same virus. We won’t be fooled again.


24 posted on 05/11/2020 10:06:58 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyrants don't just give you your freedoms back. You have to take them.)
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To: volunbeer

obesity in itself does not kill you..


25 posted on 05/11/2020 10:14:24 AM PDT by cherry
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To: SeekAndFind

Too bad the same can’t be said for the Clintons...
That they would eventually just go away.


26 posted on 05/11/2020 10:23:34 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

RE: Too bad the same can’t be said for the Clintons...

I predict that Chelsea will ran for office.... and eventually, so will Bill and Hillary’s grandkids.


27 posted on 05/11/2020 10:27:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: pgyanke

That’s pretty freaky. But the paragraph above sort of undercuts the accuracy count of the predictions, doesn’t it?


28 posted on 05/11/2020 10:38:16 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Definitely no Adams family lineage in that case. Chelsea is so educated she doesn’t know how clueless and a stooge she is.. Webb would be so proud.


29 posted on 05/11/2020 10:38:27 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: cherry

I’m with you I think they know something. Didn’t Pence make the comment couple weeks ago that we should see something by the end of May?

In Pennsylvania over 2000 of the deaths from covid (total deaths 3000) are nursing home residents. So if you’re not in a nursing home to date your odds of catching and dying from Covid is .008%

Birx is criticizing CDC so I think she’s jumping ship. She wants us to forget she was behind the original 2.2 million death estimate

Fauci is all in still, he’s like Slim Pickens in Dr Strangelove.


30 posted on 05/11/2020 11:24:40 AM PDT by NickRails
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To: cherry

Obesity does not kill you. It does make your prognosis with this virus much more serious though.


31 posted on 05/11/2020 11:26:19 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: Parmy
Vaccine development and marketing are complicated and expensive, with uncertain potential to generate profit. Viruses also differ in their susceptibility to traditional whole virus vaccine strategies. New tools and approaches though seem near to revolutionizing the field.

New vaccine efforts select and duplicate part of a virus and make it the active component of a vaccine. Some vaccine developers are also pursuing easier to administer oral, nasal, and skin contact routes as alternatives to injections. Freeze drying and other technologies aim to avoid the need for refrigeration of vaccines.

Ten or twenty years from now, we may see the beginning of a wave of new vaccines marketed that are administered through a smart skin patch that does not have any dangerous reactions and does not even need to be refrigerated. Or, a simple pill or food treat might be the means of administration.

As for the common cold, it is actually caused by a set of viruses, with some even being in the coronavirus family. This makes it hard to target the common cold for a vaccine because numerous injections or a complicated multishot would be required for full effectiveness.

One particular cold virus, the Respiratory Syntactical Virus (RSV), is being actively pursued as a vaccine target because it causes numerous deaths among infants and the elderly. In that case, the severity of the illness and the size of the susceptable populations make for enough of a business case to attract several competiting vaccine development efforts.

The annual flu shot is in fact a vaccine -- just not a very good one. The economic and medical justifications for the problematic annual flu shot is that as a matter of net costs, keeping the incidence of flu down saves lives and reduces hospitalizations.

And, to get back to Trump's point, there are several pandemics and numerous epidemics that medical science has a hard time recognizing as illnesses today because either the symptoms are different now, or the virus briefly crossed to humans from an animal reservoir species and then disappeared. Ebola and other hemorrhagic fever viruses have done so repeatedly, and it is thought that numerous coronaviruses have the potential to do so as well.

Like almost all disasters, epidemics are self-limiting and survivable -- for most people.

32 posted on 05/11/2020 11:33:37 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: SeekAndFind

SARS v 1.0 disappeared completely after a year or two. Maybe SARS v 2.0 will do so as well.


33 posted on 05/11/2020 11:42:21 AM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: norcal joe

SARS v 1.0 hasn’t been seen since IIRC 2004. Zero cases and zero deaths since then. H1N1 is probably still out there somewhere.


34 posted on 05/11/2020 11:43:45 AM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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RE: SARS v 1.0 disappeared completely after a year or two.

That virus never disappeared really, It’s still with us today.


35 posted on 05/11/2020 11:44:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Parmy
The flu shot is most definitely a vaccine. It's different every year because there are many different strains of flu virus, so drug companies and government entities (like the CDC) make a "best guess" each year of the (usually) three flu strains they expect to cause the most trouble. Sometimes they guess right, sometimes wrong.

If you get the flu shot every year, you may notice that some years your arm gets quite sore, but other years it's like you got a shot of normal saline. The mild reaction is because you're already immune to the strains in that year's shot.

Tetanus is caused by a bacteria. Vaccines against bacteria are only effective for a period of time; you generally need a "booster shot" every few years.

36 posted on 05/11/2020 11:49:38 AM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: SeekAndFind

No human cases reported in several years. Probably still in bats somewhere in China, however.


37 posted on 05/11/2020 11:50:44 AM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: SeekAndFind
How did the first SARS-COV-1 and H1N1 fizzle out? These viruses are still out there and there were no vaccines for these.

Bingo. Viruses "run out of steam" and weaken over time, just like H1N1 did. They become non-events.

38 posted on 05/11/2020 12:00:43 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Parmy

*The yearly flu shot is just that, a shot. It is not a vaccine because it is different each year. Sometimes it works and other times it does not.*

Are you freakin’ kidding me ? That’s the most idiotic thing I’ve read on FR today. Just what do you think is in that shot ?
A VACCINE !!!! Pull your head out and get an education. Please.

May God help this planet.


39 posted on 05/11/2020 12:49:21 PM PDT by AirForceVet1988 ("As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough.")
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To: AirForceVet1988

Vaccine
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Jonas Salk in 1955 holds two bottles of a culture used to grow polio vaccines.
MeSH D014612
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A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins. The agent stimulates the body’s immune system to recognize the agent as a threat, destroy it, and to further recognize and destroy any of the microorganisms associated with that agent that it may encounter in the future. Vaccines can be prophylactic (to prevent or ameliorate the effects of a future infection by a natural or “wild” pathogen), or therapeutic (e.g., vaccines against cancer, which are being investigated).[1][2][3][4]


40 posted on 05/11/2020 1:34:39 PM PDT by Parmy
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