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'The food supply chain is breaking,' Tyson says as plants close
CNN ^ | 26 April 2020 | Rob McClean

Posted on 04/27/2020 6:23:03 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

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To: Artemis Webb

I have boycotted Tyson for years. Remember, when they got caught using illegal labor?


201 posted on 04/27/2020 9:02:28 AM PDT by SMM48
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To: SMM48

Us too as soon as i learned they had ties to the Clintons sad too it was good chicken


202 posted on 04/27/2020 9:06:33 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: al baby
How much profit does one get from a closed plant ?

Oh, you'd be surprised what a good accountant can do with tax write-offs, bailouts, etc. This is when all that PAC money they give to both parties pays off.

203 posted on 04/27/2020 9:06:47 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

I said profit not ill gotten gains


204 posted on 04/27/2020 9:09:07 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: Black Agnes

Have you had it yet? I hope I had it in February when my whole class was ill. A few had flu. The rest had “not the flu.” One was in PICU for a week and missed three weeks of school. One was out two and a half weeks. Teacher was sick but “not the flu.” I had sore throat and body aches but no fever. A friend is going to be tested as soon as she can for antibodies. She had the symptoms but not the flu. She’s got the blood type most needed. If she has the antibodies, she will donate plasma.


205 posted on 04/27/2020 9:09:30 AM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: Artcore

I’m laying this mess at the feet of Trump!
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Of course you are. Over and over on multiple threads.

Trump negotiated a deal between Russia & Saudi. Trump put millions of gallons of oil in the reserve for free after Congress refused the $$ to purchase it. Trump & Perdue met with the big players to assure the food supply chain, then there were outbreaks at plants. How does he counter the *blood of non-white workers on your hands* tropes?

Trump _could_ issue a nationwide opening. He has said so. He hasn’t because it isn’t a one-size-fits-all situation. Better to let the rage be at the governors.

Oh, but *polls* show everyone loves the shutdown. How many do you know who love the shut down? Are they the people who treat FB friends as a capital asset and think Instagram is real life instead of a show?

This isn’t some simplistic situation where pointing fingers at one person or office is an answer. This is a coordinated war effort to destroy the United States and all of the West so China can rule us.

War. Acts of war. All done stealthily with plausible deniability and a big orange target.

This is about more than fear. It is purposely induced famine in the midst of plenty. They are starving people into submission.

I expect we will see countermeasures.

Meanwhile, feel free to ramp your venting to the point where your only next available action will be to submit to whatever they have planned for us all. But blaming the one man trying to fight this is easy and you will be praised.


206 posted on 04/27/2020 9:11:50 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: al baby
I said profit not ill gotten gains

You really think they care about the difference when they look at the numbers on the bottom line?

207 posted on 04/27/2020 9:18:39 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: petitfour

Not yet.

Hopefully you had it and got off easy.

Not everything going around in February was this though. Or flu either.

https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1249414291297464321

tweet 6 of 18 shows what was going around in February in the northwest.


208 posted on 04/27/2020 9:20:09 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: nwrep

“....not be a prisoner of a framework.”

It is that framework that has kept us solid and becoming the strongest nation in the world and free to do what we wish to in most cases. But violating the law of the land is not one of them.

The founders established a basic set of “rules.” The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. ... The Founders believed very strongly in states’ rights because they understood that the surest way to maintain individual liberty was to instill safeguards against centralized power. In other words, the states could protect themselves from the federal government.

Those states’ rights are now being used, in my mind, to accomplish a political goal and not in the best interest of the constituents of each state. But as long as it can be determined that the actions of the many states are their best efforts to protect the citizens within the state, Trump can’t do a thing about it.

James Madison in Federalist Paper No. 45:

“The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.”

The Founders believed very strongly in states’ rights because they understood that the surest way to maintain individual liberty was to instill safeguards against centralized power. Not only would establishing several smaller governments (the states) afford people the ability to move elsewhere, but they would also have more of a say in the public affairs of their surroundings. More simply, citizens would be closer to the people who were making decisions on their behalf and had the power of the centralized vote to back it up just in their region, not across the country, with issues pertaining just to them.

The very people who drafted the US Constitution itself had enough distrust in federal power and humility in themselves that they made clear that most of our decisions should not be made in the nation’s capital. And now that the states as a unit may have come up with a way to infringe upon the citizens for the local governments’ purposes, it is arguable that it is treason. But try and prove that one when better than half of the country by numbers supports the very people that are doing it.

rwood


209 posted on 04/27/2020 9:22:56 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: McGruff

...eating less ...
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Cooking and baking are the new time-killers.

I have full/stuffed freezers/pantry and while I do run out of some things, I am applying every trick I’ve learned in 77 years to stretch our food supply. 2 old people don’t eat a lot.

I bought one 14-lb turkey for .99/lb 2 weeks ago. Had to cook it after defrosting because I had no room in the freezers. So far, it has provided 5 meals, with enough left for another 8 or so, not counting the carcass and drippings for soup.

At this rate, we’re good for another 2 months. Maybe longer.


210 posted on 04/27/2020 9:23:54 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: PBRCat

I buy my meat from small American producers, yeah it’s more expensive than the corporate stuff produced for the box grocery stores...but it’s a damn site better food and it isn’t prepped by illegals in dirty plants. Wouldn’t ever buy Tyson crap.


211 posted on 04/27/2020 9:24:14 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (It's the corruption, stupid)
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To: Black Agnes

That didn’t make me feel better. Lol


212 posted on 04/27/2020 9:26:52 AM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: reformedliberal

Turkeys are a GREAT cost/serving meat source.

We usually stock up 3 or 4 extras in the freezer when they go cheap the week after Thanksgiving and eat on those for several months.

We make stock with the bones and use that for soup with garden veg, a little rice, a little pasta and it’s yummy.


213 posted on 04/27/2020 9:27:49 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I’m a Project Manager for a company that makes Poultry processing machines that go in the Plants. This article is BS!!! I was just in a Chicken Plant where they had 18 people with the beer virus and they quarantined 400 people for 2 weeks.

THEY NEVER STOPPED PRODUCTION


214 posted on 04/27/2020 9:33:56 AM PDT by afchief
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To: petitfour

Anecdote:

We know a early/mid 30 something that had it (actually 2 of them). The one that got it first was the wife. Thin, healthy tennis player. Went home to South louisiana for mardi gras to visit her parents/friends. her hubby didn’t get to take off work so she went by herself.

She left the friday before mardi gras and came back the sunday after. Went out to eat a few times, visited friends, went to Ash Wednesday services, etc. At no time visited the French Quarter but went to one of the smaller suburb krewe parades at some point.

By the sunday she came back she was feeling poorly so she skipped work that next week thinking she had the flu. End of the week still no better so swabbed. not flu, not strep (NP later came down with it). Told it was ‘just some virus’ and rest/liquids/etc.

Didn’t improve over the next week and had lost taste/smell so didn’t eat either. She was ‘thin’ by 80’s standard to begin with. her hubby ‘mothered’ her into eating one can of blackeyed peas during all this.

She basically felt like crap, ran fever and slept all the tme.

The 3rd week, the pain began. Lower/mid back pain. At this point she returned to the doctor and demanded to be tested for woowoo. it was still a rigamarole to get tested as the CDC was still drag assing the whole thing.

By the time she actually GOT the positive result she was already feeling better.

Her hubby didn’t really get sick with it. It was ‘just the flu’ for him and lasted a little over a week.

The pain in her back the 3rd week was kidney pain. Her kidneys are still not 100% and she’s over 2 months out from being infected.

At no point did she have difficulty breathing and was never in the hospital.

We’re hoping her kidneys aren’t damaged long term.

And having not eaten for several weeks she looks like a heroin addict runway model now. As of 2 weeks ago her sense of taste/smell still hadn’t returned.


215 posted on 04/27/2020 9:34:51 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

No but i do


216 posted on 04/27/2020 9:38:26 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: Redwood71

Nice theoretical arguments, and ones that I support, but two problems with them - 1) They will lose currency in the emotional and frenzied atmosphere in the runup to the fall elections 2) Trump is not the most articulate defender of these values.


217 posted on 04/27/2020 9:38:45 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: woodbutcher1963

...Even a chicken...
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Which needs to scalded, plucked and then have all pin feathers removed after butchering.

Did it years ago. Have a friend who raises them for eggs, hired a local family to butcher and decided the cost and mess was too high to bother. Took 8 experienced people all day to process 50 chickens.

I think red meat and pork is easier to process, especially if you do whole muscle cuts. I have helped process deer and that was after it was skinned, hung, washed, gutted.

Let’s see suburbanites get rid of guts and blood after butchering (you bury it if you don’t have dogs) or let’s see them hang a carcass correctly under cover, cool and in the shade and keeping it washed so flies don’t land. You folks who are decontaminating every surface every few hours will be horrified. It is messy, dirty and stinky. Also tiring.

Never happen. They will instead find a farmer and pay $12/lb for off-cuts to grind themselves. Done that, too. It takes time to grind burger, mix in the correct amount of fat and then clean everything you used. $5 hamburger will look cheap.

Oh: I bet there is a sudden burst of sales of meat grinders!! And knives!! How many people can hone a knife correctly and keep the edge?

This isn’t just a go-to-YT process.


218 posted on 04/27/2020 9:40:18 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Black Agnes

Sounds awful, but it’s good that your friend is feeling better. Hopefully, her body will repair itself sooner than later.


219 posted on 04/27/2020 9:49:45 AM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: petitfour

For your sake, I hope you already had it. If so it looks like it was a mild strain.

I’d deliberately contract it if I could be sure it was a mild strain. There’s just no knowing at this point.


220 posted on 04/27/2020 9:55:23 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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