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Goodbye American Information Technology Worker
organizationsandsocialchange ^ | 4/26/2020 | An American IT worker

Posted on 04/26/2020 7:11:07 PM PDT by jroehl

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Is it a good idea to have non-citizens from third world countries running our American computer systems?
1 posted on 04/26/2020 7:11:07 PM PDT by jroehl
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This is a problem with many STEM fields ... because STEM disciplines are universal by definition.

If every H1B visa was canceled tomorrow and all of these foreign workers were sent home, I honestly wonder if most companies that employ them would simply hire them back in their home countries. In an age of modern information technology and communications, you can work with someone in India as easy as you can work with someone in the next zip code.

2 posted on 04/26/2020 7:14:50 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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Is it a good idea to have non-citizens from third world countries running our American computer systems?

The Democrat party seems to think so.

3 posted on 04/26/2020 7:15:04 PM PDT by SirFishalot
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“After 31 years in a highly skilled field a person should not feel threatened by the loss of their career.”

It has happened to plenty of people in other industries. It was happening to me but I did make it out in time just as you hope.

This time it’s happening due to technology so it’s kind of a two-edged sword, no?


4 posted on 04/26/2020 7:15:28 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods ("As government expands, liberty contracts." -Ronald Reagan)
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We have NO reason to import foreign IT workers, now that we can all work from home, right?


5 posted on 04/26/2020 7:16:17 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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The importation of cheap labor is a completely bipartisan undertaking.


6 posted on 04/26/2020 7:18:13 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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I bet if you raised concerned about these foreign workers, you would be fired with a lable of racist stuck on you record. We have allowed Cultural Marxism to be used as justification for anything that give advantage to unethical policymakers.


7 posted on 04/26/2020 7:18:43 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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Defense contractors can only hire US citizens.

That part of IT is still US-only.


8 posted on 04/26/2020 7:19:02 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Alberta's Child

Eve if that were the result for some, better than them here.


9 posted on 04/26/2020 7:19:38 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Workers)
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My youngest son graduated with dual majors in both Electrical Engineering and Computer Science. An easy decision for him as there is some overlap in the curriculum.
Graduated from a well-known school with a very good GPA.
He has applied for many jobs all across the country and has had exactly ZERO interviews nevermind job offers.


10 posted on 04/26/2020 7:20:19 PM PDT by ocrp1982
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Link isn’t working for me.


11 posted on 04/26/2020 7:21:50 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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My husband lasted 28 years in IT before he had too much grey hair, the wrong nationality and a salary that made him a target. He and I both taught at pitiful salaries in a parochial school for a few more years to get our sons through college. Job security, pensions . . . quaint notions . . . unless you’re a government employee.


12 posted on 04/26/2020 7:22:33 PM PDT by Think free or die
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That’s the problem right there.

That thought came to my mind also.

I don’t want to be dismissive, but technology jobs aren’t as
secure as the jobs our parents and grandparents had.

In their generation there was far less upheaval due to
things changing. In today’s society, things always seem
fluid, changing, being born and dying in a short period of
time.

Corporations answer to their shareholders too. Not
everything they do is sinister. They have to be on the
top of their game. If not, the leadership is booted.

The one true thing here above all else, is that this guy
admits he’s lucky to still have a job in the field.

It’s a sad reality. The times they are a changing.

I don’t know how you get around that.


13 posted on 04/26/2020 7:22:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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bttt


14 posted on 04/26/2020 7:23:35 PM PDT by timestax
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This is true. My son-in-law, an IT genius, works remotely with his counterparts in Israel, England, and Germany.

Home office is in Berlin.


15 posted on 04/26/2020 7:26:39 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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"He has applied for many jobs all across the country and has had exactly ZERO interviews nevermind job offers."

Our son has a science degree from an excellent state university. He applied online for many many jobs, and never heard back. When he tried to contact people, they directed him to the online application process. He did this for months before finally allowing a family member to put in a good word for him at her place of employment. Result - full time job with benefits. He didn't want to use connections because he thought it was unfair. It's tough getting started, especially if you're not in a 'disadvantaged group'.

16 posted on 04/26/2020 7:27:41 PM PDT by Think free or die
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you can work with someone in India as easy as you can work with someone in the next zip code.

Not so - time zone differences, and the inability to ever drop in on an employee, matter.

What matters even more is the inferior quality of offshore work - which has moved a number of companies to 're=shore' in recent years.

17 posted on 04/26/2020 7:27:47 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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I worked for a power company before I retired. I sounded the alarm about allowing foreigners holding no allegiance to our nation having unfettered access to the grid and I was ridiculed for my efforts.

There is no legitimate reason for h1b’s. They exist out of greed, not necessity. If they were prohibited American business would adapt - just like they did before they came along.


18 posted on 04/26/2020 7:27:49 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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Let’s look at the bright side. Now all these foreign workers can come here and pay taxes to support the rest of us while we shelter in place for the next 25 years until COVID-19, COVID-20, COVID-21, etc. are defeated. :-P


19 posted on 04/26/2020 7:29:36 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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