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Childish Logic: The New York Times argues against adult justice for Tessa Majors’s alleged killers.
New York Post ^ | February 24, 2020 | Nicole Gelinas

Posted on 02/24/2020 4:32:36 PM PST by karpov

Last December, Tessa Majors, an 18-year-old college student, was stabbed to death in Manhattan’s Morningside Park. Police have now apprehended three suspects, 14-year-olds Rashaun Weaver and Luchiano Lewis and 13-year-old Zyairr Davis. Weaver and Lewis face second-degree murder charges as adults, and potential life sentences; Davis faces family-court charges as a juvenile because he is not alleged to have directly restrained or stabbed Majors. The New York Times has published a nearly full-page editorial arguing that no 14-year-old, not even an alleged killer, should be tried in adult court or face a prison sentence that extends beyond his majority. In attempting to make this argument, though, the Times rewrites history, glossing over the horrific crimes in the late 1970s that spurred New York governor Hugh Carey, a Democrat, to let violent juveniles face the adult justice system in the first place.

Trying the two older teens as adults is wrong, the Times believes, arguing that “the state can use family courts to base criminal justice for adolescents around rehabilitation instead of punishment, even in cases of murder.” As support for this contention, and as an example of earlier judicial overreach, the paper reaches back to the 1978 Willie Bosket case. The 15-year-old Bosket fatally shot two men and wounded a third on the subway, but because of his age, he faced only five years in juvenile jail. New York tabloids, the Time says, “responded with outrage,” and Governor Carey signed a “draconian” law allowing for courts, in future cases, to try teens as young as 13 as adults, sentencing them beyond age 21.

Older readers who remember Bosket may find this summary lacking. Bosket was notorious for the cruelty of his crimes.

(Excerpt) Read more at city-journal.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: New York
KEYWORDS: nyt; tessamajors

1 posted on 02/24/2020 4:32:36 PM PST by karpov
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To: karpov
The New York Times has published a nearly full-page editorial arguing that no 14-year-old, not even an alleged killer, should be tried in adult court

I doubt I have ever agreed with the New York slimes. I don’t intend to start now.

2 posted on 02/24/2020 4:37:51 PM PST by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer in pilot training. Air Force aircraft, go faster than Army tanks)
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To: karpov

You know...Billy the Kid was also just a misunderstood youth.


3 posted on 02/24/2020 4:41:01 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: karpov

Execute them now. Take up their rehabilitation cases when they’re 18...


4 posted on 02/24/2020 4:46:33 PM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: Moltke

Short life sentences would be appropriate for all three.


5 posted on 02/24/2020 4:49:11 PM PST by arthurus (hdv)
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To: karpov
Why the NYT Must Die
6 posted on 02/24/2020 4:51:41 PM PST by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: karpov

Be realistic, if by age 14 you don’t know or understand that torture and murder are wrong, then you never will and you need to be removed from the gene pool


7 posted on 02/24/2020 5:01:44 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: karpov
Perhaps the NYT should look at their stories that covered Bosket for a clue as to why the State put him in a plexiglass cell:

As a boy of 15 in 1978, he murdered several people on New York’s subway. Even before the murders, he was a legend with a lengthy criminal record. By Bosket’s admission, he committed more than 2,000 crimes. Two-hundred of those were armed robberies.

Bosket pleaded guilty to murdering a transit employee and was sentenced to 5 years in a youth facility as he was just 15. The light sentence would bring historic changes, and New York would become to the first state to change juvenile laws. Today, the law which allows persons as young as 13 to be tried as an adult is called the Willie Bosket law.

When Bosket was released, he returned to crime and bounced between jail cells and the street until eventually getting a life sentence in 1989.

When he was captured and put in prison, Bosket attacked guards and threw feces on them. In one case he made a shank with a piece of metal torn from the bottom of the typewriter prison authorities gave him to type his legal cases. Grinding down one end into an ice pick form, he stabbed a guard — almost killing him.

Bosket now occupies the most solitary confinement of any inmate in the entire nation. New York prisons built a special cell, just for him.

Bosket is in a kind of Plexiglas cage. The iron bars to his cell are covered so he can’t throw anything out, and he’s not allowed to have books, newspapers or magazines. Radio and TV are denied him, and he is under CCTV observation 24/7. The keepers are not permitted to speak with him.

The light fixtures were removed from his cell because he ate the bulbs just to show how fierce and violent he was.

8 posted on 02/24/2020 5:02:49 PM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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Those ‘kids’ should be poisoned, hanged, flayed, and drawn and quartered. Not necessarily in that order.


9 posted on 02/24/2020 5:07:03 PM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: karpov

It’s not childish. The NYT likes what happened to her and wants to encourage more like it. prove me wrong.


10 posted on 02/24/2020 5:10:22 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: texas booster

Bosket did get some time off for good behavior and allowed to room with Jeff Epstein for a weekend leave.


11 posted on 02/24/2020 5:12:17 PM PST by DeplorablePaul (s)
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To: karpov

In my two and a half years working in a Juvenile Prison (aka “Youth Center”) I worked with two murderers. As staff, we were under some pressure to release our charges after a stay of 3 months, if they didn’t cause problems. I always voted “no” and was required to justify my no vote. As long as I was working there, they’d not get a yes vote from me. By the law at the time, they’d both be released on their 18th birthdays. One of them was literally an axe murderer.

The Arkansas boys who shot up their school over 20 years ago were too young to be tried as adults. They were released on their 21st birthdays and given new identities. One of them lived fairly nearby in Jackson Mo and was killed in a car wreck last year. It was interesting to know, that in spite of his new identity, the local sheriff’s office knew exactly who he was and where he was living.


12 posted on 02/24/2020 5:18:25 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: karpov

Your daughters next NYT.


13 posted on 02/24/2020 5:54:12 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: texas booster
Bosket is in a kind of Plexiglas cage. The iron bars to his cell are covered so he can’t throw anything out, and he’s not allowed to have books. . .

Next week, how about a visit from two armed guards and a priest--who will ask him if he has anything to confess (while wearing shackles). From there directly to Sparky or a short rope.

A win-win. We don't have to worry about him and maybe he eventually makes Heaven. (He might wait in line for a while, but it won't be on us.)

14 posted on 02/24/2020 6:02:15 PM PST by SamuraiScot (am)
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To: tnlibertarian

Those ‘kids’ should be poisoned, hanged, flayed, and drawn and quartered. Not necessarily in that order.
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Well and truly said, and it should have already been done.


15 posted on 02/24/2020 7:01:26 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (To save America the Left MUST be aggressively attacked on every front.)
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To: T Ruth

The NY Times, Mohammedanism, and the Dem party. Delanda TUTTI!


16 posted on 02/24/2020 8:37:50 PM PST by jocon307 (Dem party delenda est!)
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To: jocon307
Delanda TUTTI!

Molto bene!

17 posted on 02/25/2020 3:37:19 AM PST by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I don’t understand why we don’t just change the law and lower the age for everyone to be tried as an adult; no reason to let people make a racial stink about it.


18 posted on 02/25/2020 4:02:36 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: texas booster

Sounds like demon possession

When he departs this vale of tears, he will make an interesting case study for a doctoral student in theology researching the pathology of demonic possession or obsession.


19 posted on 02/25/2020 1:19:56 PM PST by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites.)
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