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Sen. Rand Paul on Fox News: 'Diplomacy is dead now in the Middle East'
Fox News ^ | 1/3/20 | By Victor Garcia

Posted on 01/03/2020 2:50:37 PM PST by RandFan

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., called into "Your World with Neil Cavuto" Friday to discuss the deadly airstrike that killed Iranian general Qassem Soleimani in Iraq, saying he fears an "escalation" between the U.S. and Iran.

"I think without a declaration of war, without Congress and the American people behind it, what you get is a messy mission. You get a mission of escalating intermittent violence," Paul told Cavuto. "The president said he didn't want perpetual war in the Middle East. But he's adding more and more troops. If you don't want perpetual war, you don't keep sending more targets over there."

Paul believes it is more likely that "Iran, their militias and their proxies will attack the U.S." following the death of Soleimani.

President Trump accused the Iranian general of planning “imminent and sinister attacks” Friday in his first televised remarks since the airstrike that killed the general at Baghdad's international airport.

"We took action last night to stop a war,” Trump said during brief remarks at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida. “We did not take action to start a war.”

Paul argued that that the airstrike signals the "death of diplomacy" with Iran and that they will feel the need to retaliate.

"It's hard to imagine that the Iranians are going to shrink now and say, 'Oh, you killed our leading general, who's been a leader in our country for 20 years, and we're going to do nothing,'" Paul said. "I also think with the death of Soleimani, you have the death of diplomacy. I don't think there's any chance that Iran will speak to us again on diplomacy."

Cavuto asked Paul what his "biggest fear" was about the situation.

"I think, that there will be an escalation, that there will be a war with Iran," Paul responded.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; kentucky; qasemsoleimani; qudsforce; randpaul; randstroll; skinheadsonfr
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To: RandFan

Discussion and diplomacy requires all parties acting in good faith. That seems to be lacking world wide, but particularly lacking in those who wish to kill us. Imagine that.


41 posted on 01/03/2020 3:11:58 PM PST by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: RandFan
Good Lord, It is a miracle I am not bald from pulling my hair out when both Paul & Lindsey have a day off the reservation.

Scott Adams said something prescient today as usual.

What if this was a set up by the Iranians?

Think about it, it would to get rid of their radical head and the eventual get rid of the El-Quds types and Maybe the Mullahs go into retirement because if you are following Hesmat Alavi on twitter, how can you not see Iran is about to collapse. This clears the way for that Perestroika if you will. Tangent to this all the orgs that this guy had a hand in and Iran funded are the ones causing &h!t aka those at Israel's throat constantly. All these bad actors have less and less options IMHO.

I remain the optimist that a peace deal is coming between the PA and Israel, all that is need is for Iran to usher out the Mullah's, they have had enough, as well as so many others in the region are sick of them, we all our.

Come to think of it if PDJT cleans up this mess he'd be cleaning up the mess left On Isle 39 by Jimma Carter, now if he can do it before he kicks the bucket, that would be delicious, he'd have to see it and deal with it. Good....

42 posted on 01/03/2020 3:12:33 PM PST by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Songs of Angry Men!")
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To: RandFan

All of the FReepers criticizing Rand Paul should remember that he’s a constitutionalist first and foremost. He also sounds a lot like a presidential candidate we knew in 2015 and 2016 ... a guy named Donald J. Trump.


43 posted on 01/03/2020 3:12:56 PM PST by Alberta's Child (In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.)
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To: RandFan

Rand Paul has got this exactly backwards. Now that Iran knows that waging war behind proxies doesn’t work with this President, I think that it may be MORE likely to come to the negotiating table. Obama would give Iran bribes to be good and even when it wasn’t, he would still pay Iran. This President is going to hammer Iran if it misbehaves. Iran probably won’t rush to the negotiating table in order to save face but I think it will ultimately come there. Iran is going to realize that its options are limited.


44 posted on 01/03/2020 3:13:01 PM PST by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: RandFan

If we decide to march on Tehran, that’s a declaration of war. If you have a mob trying to take your embassy, or some thug trying to kill your people, you just take care of business.


45 posted on 01/03/2020 3:13:30 PM PST by marron
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To: RandFan

Diplomacy only actually works when both sides respect the terms agreed to. Iran is notorious for making the agreement, then violating it in almost the same breath.

This was just a good solid fetch upside the head with a white-elm club. Works for attitude adjustment on mules.


46 posted on 01/03/2020 3:14:19 PM PST by alloysteel (Very willful ignorance and pretense at moral authority are both roadblocks to honest dialogue.)
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To: RandFan
My first cent, diplomacy has never worked with Iran since 1979.
My second cent, is anyone going to challenge Paul in his next primary?
47 posted on 01/03/2020 3:14:51 PM PST by Widget Jr
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To: RandFan
Yo, Rand Paul, listen to the opening monologue of the Mark Kevin show from Jan. 3, 2020. Guest host Brian Mudd reads an excerpt from a speech Bill Clinton gave congratulating himself for NOT killing Osama bin Laden when he had the chance.

Care to take a stab at when he said that? Spoiler Alert! It was on Sept. 10, 2001.

Do you remember what happened the next day?

48 posted on 01/03/2020 3:15:07 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: RandFan

He says that like it was ever alive to begin with...

But, folks should fear not... The SJWs are already racing to the rescue and, doing what they do best, which is to blame it all on t3h j00000z that are (apparently) holding The Donald’s leash.

/yes, sarc.


49 posted on 01/03/2020 3:15:11 PM PST by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: gibsonguy

Rand can be so right at times and so ridiculously blind stupid the next day. Trump has been doing his best to get us out of that quagmire while taking fire from all sides. Trump didn’t put us in this situation but he damn well is not going to do a Vietnam cut and run or an Obama Benghazi. I assume Rand’s alternative would be more prayers for more dead Americans.


50 posted on 01/03/2020 3:15:19 PM PST by hardspunned
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To: RandFan

The first prerequisite for diplomacy is they know you mean business. Establish that, and diplomacy can proceed.


51 posted on 01/03/2020 3:15:23 PM PST by marron
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To: RandFan

This is the Rand Paul I despise.

When we’re Middle Eastern negotiation not morbid?

Rand, STHU


52 posted on 01/03/2020 3:15:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The Leftistist media and particularly CNN NEWS should come with a ten day supply of Cipro.)
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To: RandFan

“death of diplomacy”

Depends on how you define diplomacy. With Obama it means Americans embrace servitude. The Iranians may have to adjust to President Trump who is willing to use American power.

Obama never once used American power to enforce its will.


53 posted on 01/03/2020 3:15:53 PM PST by odawg
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To: RandFan

What the hell.
Shut up Rand!


54 posted on 01/03/2020 3:16:11 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (God Bless President Trump)
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To: RandFan

The Iranians dropped a drone out of the sky and attacked the U.S. Embassy. The bad act is done.

Move on to retaliation.


55 posted on 01/03/2020 3:17:29 PM PST by ptsal
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To: Magic Fingers
Clinton and Bush kicked the can down the road. Obama paid fo have the can carried down the road. We may as well kick Iran’s ass now and get it over with. They are a huge sponsor of worldwide terror and unrest

We should drone George Soros next.

56 posted on 01/03/2020 3:18:04 PM PST by Newbomb Turk
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To: RandFan

In re: post #48, Mark Kevin should be Mark Levin. Thanks for nothing auto-correct.


57 posted on 01/03/2020 3:18:31 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: hardspunned
' I assume Rand’s alternative would be more prayers for more dead Americans.'

I suspect Rand wants more Sauds to die against Iran. I think enough Americans have died for sand people to last the end of time. Putting our boys there to protect sand people is not the answer. The rest of the me will never sacrifice themselves for the safety of Americans.

58 posted on 01/03/2020 3:18:39 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: RandFan
If you don't want perpetual war, you don't keep sending more targets over there."

What a disgusting remark from a devout coward.

59 posted on 01/03/2020 3:19:50 PM PST by SanchoP (Yippy,the next generation search engine.)
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To: RandFan

When the religion of a theocratic society recommends that the leaders lie and dupe their opposites whenever force will not give them sufficient leverage to conquer them, you have a societal collision, not a diplomatic problem.

Deception, Lying
and Taqiyya
Does Islam permit Muslims to lie?

Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to “smooth over differences” or “gain the upper-hand over an enemy”

There are several forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, the best known being taqiyya (the Shia name). These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause of Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.


60 posted on 01/03/2020 3:20:09 PM PST by wildbill (The older I get, the less 'life in prison" means to me)
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