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To: grasshopper2

First, the young men do not start their married life with work, but they come to it later, as I know from my own experience. Nobody over 30 does not know English, and there are Chareidi trade schools. Second, there are an awful lot of them, so they need a whole block. But upstate, new developments are blocked by locals once they discover that it’s Chareidim who are developing it. There are valid concerns that can be addressed, but outright stonewalling precludes dialogue. What’s left to do, but buy up houses. You wrote a very long post, I’m just touching on the essential points here.

I am not Chareidi, but my eldest son is. He did spend time after his first marriage studying Torah, and he also learned computers. He’s worked in a grocery store, a fish store, and now he’s marketing a phone/internet/tv package for English speakers. In everything that he’s put his hand, he’s ended up practically managing it. This is in Israel, but I’ve known plenty of Chareidim in the US, too. They are not perfect, but the picture you paint is grossly distorted.

I remember when the Satmar Chassidim moved into Far Rockaway. They built houses on an undeveloped beach facing Jamaica Bay, and moved in, bothering nobody. They were unsuccessful building the institutions they needed, such as mikveh, school and central synagogue, so they slowly trickled out, leaving the nice new houses to be bought by other ethnicities. Some have remained, and are not in any way sequestered off from their new neighbors. That, at least, is how things stood when I last visited in 2010.

As I’ve said already on multiple threads, mutual communication and negotiation is the answer, not hostile action such as you advocate, or stereotyping and slandering an entire culture without attempting to understand it.


78 posted on 12/19/2019 10:25:46 PM PST by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained)
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To: Eleutheria5
so they need a whole block

They NEED the whole block??? So I have to move ? ... for THEM????? Seriously? My father, uncle, and great-uncles fought for this country and were wounded and I, who played by the rules and worked my whole life, have to move because YOU want my house??????? even thought I am happy in my house where I have lived? I have to move for you???

WHY??????

Seriously, why do you think I should have to move? I don't want to move.

79 posted on 12/19/2019 10:49:42 PM PST by grasshopper2
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