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How can this be? Rome fell around 400AD, but diversity is our strength.
1 posted on 11/26/2019 6:05:44 AM PST by shoff
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Immigration and lack of assimilation were the big problems. Rome lost battles, sure, but the Roman Empire wasn’t killed on the battlefield. The culture just faded and it no longer had cohesion. Died with more of a whimper than a bang.


2 posted on 11/26/2019 6:11:47 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: shoff

Or from Rome....


3 posted on 11/26/2019 6:13:19 AM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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Well, the Via Appia does run from Brindis to Rome....Rome began its fall when it instituted the Dole to foster the “finer tastes” and to “institute tranquility” - they called it “Cura Annonae” or “grain dole”...so says Wikipedia and other more “modern” versions of history....when I was in school, history teachers were allowed to speak the truth that Rome’s version of Welfare/EBT was a deciding factor in the fall of the empire because it wasn’t just as Wiki and others state today, it was also used to support “artistes”...


4 posted on 11/26/2019 6:16:05 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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One of the Roman poets complained that the Orontes was flowing into the Tiber.

(The Orontes was a river in Syria.)

5 posted on 11/26/2019 6:20:06 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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476 AD to be exact

immigration without assimilation is invasion. The best examples I can think of occurred in Britain. Romans 100 AD ish. Viking shortly after the Romans left, Saxons 600-700 AD, Normans in the 11th century and Muslims in the 21 century.

And then there is Kosovo where the Albanians forced out the Serbs and Cali where the Mexicans are forcing out the Americans.

If a society does not force immigrants to assimilate, that society will be conquered and forced to assimilate to its’ new rules norms of behavior. Western Europe(we) is now experiencing this. Maybe the men (or women) of WE will grow a pair? Probably not, I’m waiting to see election results in France where Le Pen is the only sane choice. Oh and we better reelect Trump.


9 posted on 11/26/2019 6:27:14 AM PST by jpsb
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Now all roads lead to Only.

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/left-straight-right-turn-lanes-298695.jpg

10 posted on 11/26/2019 6:29:34 AM PST by OSHA (What did I come in here for?)
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All roads DID lead to Rome
Needs to be changed to
ALL ROADS LEAD TO OBAMA !


14 posted on 11/26/2019 6:41:20 AM PST by hapnHal
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That’s why Rome was identified in Jewish history as Edom.


15 posted on 11/26/2019 6:42:21 AM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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“Roman satirists may have been right when they spoke of Greeks and Syrians taking over their city. “

But they were cool with Rome annexing Greece and Assyria?


17 posted on 11/26/2019 6:51:38 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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How can this be? Rome fell around 400AD, but diversity is our strength.
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The Eastern Roman Empire didn’t fall until May 29th,1453, when Muslim armies took Constantinople.

This fact puts Muslim expansion into perspective.

It was happening at the time of Columbus. Its is still happening now. How many millions were enslaved, how many male African slaves were castrated, how many young European male slaves (Slavs) were castrated, indoctrinated into Islam, and then used as shock troops for the Muslim invasion of Europe?

How many sleeper agents have now infiltrated the West, to be called to action by Iran and other bad agents.


20 posted on 11/26/2019 8:36:26 AM PST by Yulee
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The western half of the Roman empire fell or rather quietly stopped in terms of imperial administration in 470 AD.

But the eastern Roman empire remained. They called themselves Romans and their emperor was called the Roman emperor until 1453.

In the west, Rome the city was continually occupied and Roman culture remained over all of the former imperial domains.

The Roman empire was very diverse. One dynasty of emperors, from Septimus Severus were actually Phoenician/ Carthaginian by blood but Roman by culture.

Another, Philip the Arab was, well Arab. Then you had Spanish, Dacian etc emperors


22 posted on 11/26/2019 11:06:47 AM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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A lot of atheists/agnostics mock Christianity by asking why Christ waited for so long to come and rescue humanity from itself.

In my own musings and speculation, I suspect that Christ came at the earliest time and place in history when His message could be spread to the ends of the earth. The Roman Empire was a necessity to this end.

33 posted on 11/26/2019 11:30:22 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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I am reminded of a time when I was 18, living in Philadelphia, receiving my driver’s license for the first time, itching to go to the New Jersey Shore and asking my Dad, which road should I take, Dad, his answer:

All roads lead to the Jersey Shore. We laughed.

We are miles and miles away from that now, but a great memory.


48 posted on 08/25/2020 5:30:33 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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