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Self-driving Uber car that hit and killed woman did not recognize that pedestrians jaywalk
NBC ^ | 11 09 2019 | Phil McCausland

Posted on 11/10/2019 9:18:55 AM PST by yesthatjallen

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To: rktman
Apparently she was watching TV on her phone.

It shows that the developers do not take the need for a driver being present seriously.

It seems they're hiring minimum wage workers to sit in the seat as if they are ".safety back-up drivers".


22 posted on 11/10/2019 9:36:58 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: bramps
I like the idea of computer assisted driving sensors.

However, I don't want to be in a car with no steering wheel or brakes. I want a fully manual emergency override.

I've seen videos of people sleeping in self-driving cars. Fools and idiots.

23 posted on 11/10/2019 9:39:18 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: Tallguy

There were actually 38 accidents over a roughly 15 month time period in this trial city, this being the only one with a fatality. I don’t believe that there were injuries in the other “ accidents”, but I’m not positive.


24 posted on 11/10/2019 9:40:33 AM PST by crosdaddy
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To: Drew68

“I blame the woman who was jaywalking across four lanes of traffic at 10:00 at night.”

Because you lack intelligence, ability to find information or reasoning capacity.

That’s my guess.

Come on, man.

She was watching TV on her phone.


25 posted on 11/10/2019 9:40:38 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: yesthatjallen
and there was no alert to the operator there might be a problem with their input required???
26 posted on 11/10/2019 9:41:07 AM PST by Chode (Send bachelors and come heavily armed.)
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To: ifinnegan

she? In the immortal words of Austin Powers: “That’s a man baby!”


27 posted on 11/10/2019 9:41:34 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: dfwgator

No doubt they are hard at work trying to figure out mannerisms or something that will tell the automated driver that it’s a conservative who would be worth big points.


28 posted on 11/10/2019 9:42:22 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: yesthatjallen

Death penalty for jaywalking? Even Stalin would be envious.


29 posted on 11/10/2019 9:42:38 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't don't tell anyone.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Cars don’t recognize anything. Neither does software.

An amazing feature of the HUMAN mind is its ability to recognize objects and/or creatures. It can do this based on very minute perceptions. Our perception system is highly optimized and extremely efficient in dealing with the real world.

No computer program can come even close.

The human mind can deal with situations that it has never encountered. It is built this way. No simulation can approach this ability.

Ditch the idea of “self-driving” cars now.


30 posted on 11/10/2019 9:42:57 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Trump’s been in office only three years. I never realized what low IQs these Hollywood idiots had until Trump


31 posted on 11/10/2019 9:45:11 AM PST by jersey117
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To: yesthatjallen

“...it could not correctly predict her path and concluded it needed to brake just 1.3 seconds before it struck her as she wheeled her bicycle across the street a little before 10 p.m. at night.”

Typical Telsa supporter response:

“Well! That was a pretty stupid configuration for her to be in, wheeling a bicycle across the street, not a crosswalk, and at night. If she hadn’t done all 3 at the same time, we may have let her live.”


32 posted on 11/10/2019 9:46:10 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't don't tell anyone.)
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To: jersey117

Oops. Wrong thread. Meant to post to the Redford thread.


33 posted on 11/10/2019 9:47:35 AM PST by jersey117
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To: bramps

Lol they probably added this line:

else if (pedestrian.getName().equals(”Donald Trump”) {
points += Integer.MAX_VALUE;

}


34 posted on 11/10/2019 9:48:01 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: yesthatjallen

Go ahead blame the car, not the morons controlling it.


35 posted on 11/10/2019 9:49:58 AM PST by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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To: rktman

“she? In the immortal words of Austin Powers: “That’s a man baby!””

You’re correct.

Rafaela’s original name is Rafael.


36 posted on 11/10/2019 9:54:54 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: yesthatjallen

Sounds like the computer saw the ‘object’ in time, but had trouble classifying the ‘object’ to know it need to stop.

When I get into that situation driving, I will SLOW DOWN and plan on stopping, until I get closer and I’m certain that I don’t need to stop. I was once with my wife and pretty far in front of us, I guy in a pickup thought it would be a good idea to toss a mattress on to the road. My wife, who was driving, was hypnotized momentarily as she tried to process it - I yelled at her to slow down...and she did stop in time.

My guess here is that the person doing the coding lives in San Francisco (Mission District) and takes the Google (or Uber) bus to work every day, and doesn’t even own a car, and may not even have a driver’s license. So things are binary to him - first you identify, and then you slow down if necessary, which is what the car did. Unfortunately, as I doubt he ever took a physics class, or he would have learned that cars also do need time to stop.


37 posted on 11/10/2019 9:56:17 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't don't tell anyone.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Nope. The driver still can procreate.


38 posted on 11/10/2019 9:57:51 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: yesthatjallen

If I remember the video, this woman appeared to cross the middle of the highway, at night, in front of the only car coming down the road.

Even a human would have been hard-pressed NOT TO hit someone suddenly walking in front of you in the dark, on an empty road, at highway speeds.

Was this a suicide? I think I read that she was homeless too.


39 posted on 11/10/2019 9:58:13 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: rktman

Perhaps you should read the article?


40 posted on 11/10/2019 9:58:52 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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