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To: Zhang Fei

It is a fact third world has issues and simply can’t fly. You want to get on Ethiopia Airlines? Not me. Western pilots have skills and judgment lacking in third world jets.

Pilot training we had two Nigerian students. On e washed out after T-37 and he went home, they pinned on his wings when he arrived and he was officially a Nigerian pilot (flew C-130’s). And these “heavy” pilots also flew as pilots of their national airlines.

The other finished T-38 training, finished the entire program, went home was pinned and flew the F-5.

During initial Check-out with Ethiopian Airlines, he was asked how thrust reverser’s worked. He had no clue and just said the enigunes started to rotate backwards. They passed him.

Mid-East and Asian “pilots” are unskilled as well.

I worked/flew in Bahrain and more than once the mid-East aircrew would argue among themselves (“turn here!” “No” “the runway is over there” “no it is not”, “not my fault!” Was said many times during a flight).

They are “trained” but simply go back to third world ways once they get home. Their mind-set is unable to retain air sense and judgment because of cultural issues. Bottom line, it is not the jet, it is the aircrew, so when something simple happens, they can’t handle it like first world pilots.

You buy my jets I will train you to the proper standard, what you do when you get home is on your head.

Third world aircrew and maintenance both are substandard once they get home. But hey, you want to trust your life to a third world aircrew, have at it.


32 posted on 10/30/2019 4:52:07 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka

Same experience in Saudi. We had a contract to train pilots to fly the F-15. Instructors quit versus continuing to risk their lives with the low IQ nitwits. We changed how we trained them so no America had to fly with them. We did ground school instead.


35 posted on 10/30/2019 5:10:50 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: Hulka

[Third world aircrew and maintenance both are substandard once they get home. But hey, you want to trust your life to a third world aircrew, have at it.]


From the beginning, we have been in complete agreement that Third World pilots are a horror show, skill-wise and that Third World maintenance regimens seem to be based on generous helpings of prayer and luck. And your very on point personal experiences certainly bear out much of what I’ve read and heard, anecdotally.

The principal difference we have is that the half-assed dipsticks in the the Third World who fly Boeing aircraft that are not the Max haven’t crashed their planes in the perfect weather conditions under which the Max crashes occurred. Third World countries are around 40% of Boeing’s civil aviation sales, and climbing fast, thanks to China and India. To keep unit costs down, it needs that market. And that’s why it needs to make the Max as idiot-proof as its other planes, so that in good weather, even a monkey could fly them. Because a monkey occasionally will, as recent events have shown.


46 posted on 10/30/2019 11:23:15 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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