Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Better Than a Loan
Townhall.com ^ | October 23, 2019 | John Stossel

Posted on 10/23/2019 3:51:36 AM PDT by Kaslin

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-62 next last

1 posted on 10/23/2019 3:51:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Get government out of the business of guaranteeing loans or giving loans.

Allow student debt to be discharged in bankruptcy.

Problem solved.


2 posted on 10/23/2019 3:54:55 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
"It may also sway students away from majors that don't have job prospects," says Hoyler. ISA recipients learn "not only what a career may pay, but how stable it may be, what the future is like."

If they are smart enough to go to college, they are smart enough to research this information before they go to college. The Department of Labor has websites.

3 posted on 10/23/2019 3:57:03 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Knock it down to 84 months, more biblical.


4 posted on 10/23/2019 3:57:14 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

For student athletes on full scholarships whose only interests are using their universities as a gateway to the NBA or NFL, they should be required to reimburse their university for the entire cost of their education and room and board out of their professional signing contract bonus.


5 posted on 10/23/2019 4:02:21 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Sorry, but when I went to college, professors made 45K. Now they demand huge money and the administrators make more. And then, they don’t teach how to think critically, they teach politics and bs.

students should reject universities and attend community college, then finish up at a school that can handle advanced courses. And forget this stupid Greek garbage. Also, work and pay as you go.


6 posted on 10/23/2019 4:03:24 AM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

There’s an even better way. An internship. Work for a company while you go to college for a lower hourly wage, but get a stipend for the months you’re going to class. Then after you graduate, work for that company a year for each year you spent in college at competitive salary. I did that and graduated in four years as an engineer - debt free.


7 posted on 10/23/2019 4:04:46 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Make America Great. Prosecute Dems who break the law!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Indentured servants - boy we have come a long way since the 1700s /s

The reason colleges cost more today then they did up until the 1980s or so is because of third party payers.

When the student was responsible for paying for their own education it was possible to work part time, go to school, and pay for books and tuition.

Colleges knew they could only get so much money out each student and so cost were kept low because there was no choice in the matter.

Government guaranteed student loans changed the equation. Now college cost could go up and the government would gurantee payment regardless. It became a wealth transfer scheme between the middle class and the elite.

Now that the fraud of student loan is being exposed they come up with a “new idea”. Hey pilgrim, we will pay your passage to the new world but you will have to work for us for a number of years...indentured servant!

Personally I believe on line colleges will eventually become the main path to a degree. Until then, I will tell anyone young person that ask, stay away from student loans.


8 posted on 10/23/2019 4:08:22 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Company Store

Sharecropping

Indentured Servitude

There have always been these type of schemes to indebt people for life....


9 posted on 10/23/2019 4:12:19 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
It's called an "income share agreement."

Careful, this is the IRS’s territory and they don’t like competition...

10 posted on 10/23/2019 4:14:14 AM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yldstrk
the administrators make more.

A lot more and there are lots and lots and lots more of them too. Like everywhere. It's an extension of the swamp. It's where the money really goes.

11 posted on 10/23/2019 4:23:39 AM PDT by AndyJackson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: exDemMom

> If they are smart enough to go to college, they are smart enough to research this information before they go to college. <

The problem is that colleges shamelessly lie to freshmen. Let’s say you’re interested in becoming a theater major. That’s pretty much a dead-end degree, and many websites will tell you that.

But the theater department will tell you that it’s a great degree. And they’ll give you a few slanted examples to “prove” how great it is. So I don’t completely blame freshmen for making bad decisions on their majors. The colleges are willing enablers.

I, for one, would like to see the colleges have some skin in the game. Perhaps we should make them co-sign student loans.


12 posted on 10/23/2019 4:24:32 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Nd.I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

My daughter just graduated from UW Madison debt free by working two part time jobs basically full time for years during and after high school and paid for all of her tuition and rent/food. If there’s a will there’s a way. I call BS on all of these folks deep in debt.


13 posted on 10/23/2019 4:28:10 AM PDT by LumberJack53213
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Permit discharge by bankruptcy
Claw back 1/2 the losses from the school that received the money


14 posted on 10/23/2019 4:29:39 AM PDT by HangnJudge (Kipling was right about Humanity)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LumberJack53213
I call BS. Here are the facts:

Residents of Wisconsin pay an annual total price of $25,635 to attend University of Wisconsin Madison on a full time basis.

So your daughter generated $100,000 in wages plus room and board working part time and full time for two years? YEAH RIGHT PAL.

15 posted on 10/23/2019 4:31:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Hot Tabasco

Why? Do you have any clue how much money they make for the University?
Also, how can you prove their intent?


16 posted on 10/23/2019 4:32:40 AM PDT by EEGator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Ending the H-1B visa program would do more for college graduates prospects than any other thing that has been proposed.


17 posted on 10/23/2019 4:33:37 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AndyJackson; yldstrk

Regarding excessive administration costs, for one example, colleges didn’t have an army of Diversity Deans and staff when I attended. Does this really further education?

An example:

Ohio State Diversity Office Has 88 Employees and $7.3 Million Budget
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/09/11/ohio-state-diversity-office-has-88-employees-and-7-3-million-budget/


18 posted on 10/23/2019 4:33:38 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: LumberJack53213

Congratulations, you obviously raised your daughter right.


19 posted on 10/23/2019 4:34:25 AM PDT by Kaslin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: HangnJudge

Have all the colleges and universities pay back the student debt through raiding endowments, and selling property.

They were the beneficiaries of the loans, not the students.

They often marketed false products.

Let them pay it all.


20 posted on 10/23/2019 4:35:21 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-62 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson