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To: rlmorel

I could care less if a woman can “perform” to (what used to be) the standard for these tip of the spear combat roles. The vast majority can’t and the university trained leftist social engineers force the standards down until enough can to claim a win.

It’s a deconstruct of our Christian culture where we traditionally hold women in a position of high esteem and safety for the good of our society. That effort has been in play for over fifty years. The long game of incrementalism is paying dividends against our core values and beliefs as nation founded on Christian principles.

Communists win again.


31 posted on 10/14/2019 10:53:56 AM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: TADSLOS
You and I are in complete agreement. You have been around enough and may have seen my posting on this subject. I can't recommend the linked article highly enough, written by a Marine who happens to be a woman and researched it and spoke honestly about it:
Women in combat is recipe for failing missions, and those who support it in any way have either never been in combat, have not taken the time to look realistically at the issue, are politically compromised, or are simply ignorant. Most of the time they ignore what combat veterans have to say on the subject. For a really good assessment of this situation, written by a female Marine, check this link below by Jude Eden-"Jane of Trades", USMC on women in combat and training.

In particular, about halfway down is her seminal piece: Women in Combat: The Question of Standards, by Jude Eden.

I cannot recommend this page highly enough, she served in the USMC in the Middle East, honorably, in non-combat roles, and she knows of what she speaks.

Here, from that article, is the passage that says it all:

"...Meanwhile, the argument to maintain the combat exclusion makes itself easily in every aspect. Including women in combat units is bad for combat, bad for women, bad for men, bad for children, and bad for the country.

The argument for the combat exclusion is provable all the time, every time.

Political correctness has no chance against Nature. Her victories are staring us in the face at all times.

The men just keep being able to lift more and to run faster, harder, and longer with more weight on their backs while suffering fewer injuries. They just keep never getting pregnant.

The combat units have needs that women cannot meet. Women have needs that life in a combat unit cannot accommodate without accepting significant disadvantage and much greater expense. Where 99 percent of men can do the heavy-lifting tasks typical of gunners, but 85 percent of women cannot, there is no gap women need to fill..."

And it isn't just the infantry, either. I recently watched a video of USMC artillery, and they were humping 155mm artillery shells off the back of a truck. They were pulling them off at chest height, duckwalking them over 15 yards, putting them on the ground, then going back and getting another one.

I think they are somewhere around 100 lbs per round.

Sure, there are women who could do that. But the average woman could not.

I usually include this graph to illustrate the point, based on commonly accepted medical assessments performed outside of politically correct constraints:

When personnel are in a combat situation, I can certainly imagine times where that nice loader and transporter thingie for those rounds is not going to be available, or you are simply in a situation where you gotta move the rounds fast using a bunch of people.

To boil it down, my objection to women in combat is twofold:

  1. First, simple differences in physical capability and function between men and women regarding average capabilities.

  2. Secondly, the effect on morale and logistics associated with military activity due to a mixing of the sexes in that environment.

34 posted on 10/14/2019 1:20:03 PM PDT by rlmorel (Trump to China: This Capitalist Will Not Sell You the Rope with Which You Will Hang Us.)
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