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House Dems believe they have enough votes to pass articles of impeachment, senior member says
Fox News ^ | 10/6/19 | Leland Vittert, Melissa Leon

Posted on 10/06/2019 3:34:50 PM PDT by conservative98

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To: conservative98

Incredibly insulting tweet.

Judging disparagingly millions of people you have never met and know virtually nothing about is the action of a bigot.


81 posted on 10/06/2019 5:29:07 PM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal (NorthernSentinel))
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To: conservative98

Justin Amash is a Libertarian not a Republican. Oh and a Chinese businessman. No wonder he wants Trump gone. Fortunately after 2020 I think Amash will be gone.


82 posted on 10/06/2019 5:40:54 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: NoLibZone

So true. They won’t even vote to hold an inquiry because then the GOP would have subpoena power and first up would be Hunter Biden. Followed closely by Adam Schiff.


83 posted on 10/06/2019 5:43:34 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: 100American

I say you are wrong. The whole reason for not voting for a formal impeachment inquiry is to keep the Republicans and PDJT from being able to call witnesses and subpoena documents. The plan is to write articles of impeachment based on their one sided “inquiry”. Once that is done then the whole house has to vote whether to approve the articles and send it to the Senate. The impeachment inquiry is then dead and no more investigation will occur in the House.

Now, the Senate can, (I’ve not heard this discussed yet), determine that the Articles of Impeachment are insufficient and that the House did not provide Due Process. At that point McConnel could direct the Senate committees to hold evidentiary hearings on the basis of the Article of Impeachment, calling witnesses that the House called and witnesses that were not called, subpoena documents etc. All of this must be done in public hearings, no behind closed doors and all transcripts of witnesses deposed/interviewed and documents subpoenaed or collected by the House must be turned over to the committees and PDJT.

McConnel can state that before they consider the Articles of Impeachment and go to a trial they will hold, what in the court system is call a preliminary hearing, which allows both sides to present evidence in order to determine if the charges should be dismissed.

This, of course will slow down the process, which is not what the Dems want. They need it to go fast in order to prevent PDJT’s side to be presented to the public which will debunk the Articles of Impeachment.


84 posted on 10/06/2019 5:52:47 PM PDT by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: Truth29
There is an upcoming demonstration of indeterminate size

The basic information is available at: https://trumpmarch.com

There is very little information on that site. It appears to be a call for volunteers and a fundraising pitch.

The project seems very ambitious. My assessment is "too little, too late". A Leftist demonstration would unveil their website with transportation captains already in place, along with sign-up pages for at least a half dozen States and some free lodging available. Of course, the Leftists have a very skilled professional cadre of full-time organizers, many of whom are paid a modest living wage for their work.

We aren't going to beat them with street demonstrations.

85 posted on 10/06/2019 6:01:15 PM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: StormEye

“If they had the votes she would have voted already...fact is they DO NOT have the votes and the longer this drags out the few[er] they have....”
I believe you’re correct.
I truly believe they’d impeach Pres. Trump
if they thought they could win.
But the DemocRATS know they can’t win.
So all this impeachment talk is only about smearing
Pres. Trump’s reputation for the history books and
an attempt to influence the 2020 elections in their favor.
All of it planned by Obama/Hillary and her Deep State
Flying Monkeys before the 2016 elections had even occurred.

Plus they want to clear the way of Joe Biden for Warren but Wall St hates Warren and so that money is going to Trump.....


86 posted on 10/06/2019 6:06:01 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: conservative98

Well, then, take the damn vote!


87 posted on 10/06/2019 6:07:12 PM PDT by Taxman (We will never be a truly free people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS.)
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To: Truth29
One big question is where will the military stand and will they fire on Americans?

From what I see in my dealings as a military contractor, the answer to that is "yes". The field grades and general officers are mostly leftest. The troops will follow their orders, just as they are trained to do.

88 posted on 10/06/2019 6:19:43 PM PDT by damper99
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To: conservative98

Well then f*cking do it so we can get this over with before the Holidays.


89 posted on 10/06/2019 6:21:53 PM PDT by technically right
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To: conservative98

Bring it rat,bring it


90 posted on 10/06/2019 6:31:07 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: usnavy_cop_retired
McConnel can state that before they consider the Articles of Impeachment and go to a trial they will hold, what in the court system is call a preliminary hearing

The only chance McConnel has of presiding over a satisfactory outcome (to us) is to dismiss the Articles of Impeachment based on a summary ruling that they were improperly delivered to the Senate - which may in fact turn out to be the case. The Democrats may very well attempt to deliver the Articles straight from committees without a full vote of the House. "Deemed passed" as Nancy Pelosi has been known to say.

If the Democrats do manage to deliver the Articles after a full vote of the House, it will be an unmistakable indicator to all factions that existing plans must be advanced with deployment of people and supplies.

Note that deployments will include far-left extremist factions of the Democrat party in addition to those of the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy". Behind the screening groups of idiot soy-boys and the Antifa cos-players are some extremely skillful and ruthless people with access to money, weapons, and fighters. They aren't going to back down while they have that access.

Everybody knows where this is going. Plan accordingly

91 posted on 10/06/2019 6:31:58 PM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: flamberge

Another option is for McConnel to send the Articles of Impeachment back to the House stating that until there is Due Process afforded to PDJT in the House process/inquiry, then the Senate will not accept the “indictment” because it is deficient in facts based on the applicable law/s and lacks fairness to the accused.


92 posted on 10/06/2019 6:56:53 PM PDT by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: conservative98
House Democrats believe they have the 217 votes needed to pass articles of impeachment against President Trump

I knew this on election night 2018.

93 posted on 10/06/2019 7:49:29 PM PDT by libertylover (Democrats hated Lincoln too.)
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To: flamberge
And it is clear that the Republican establishment wants Trump gone as well. They believe, incorrectly, that they can continue to ride the gravy train in the aftermath of an impeachment and a conviction.

And the Trump base wants GOPe gone. How are they going to get elected to dogcather without Trump's base. The Republican establishment is facing their do or die moment.

Of course, they are dithering, like they always have.

94 posted on 10/06/2019 8:29:54 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: conservative98

Let’s urge them to vote! Then, once we know who all these traitors are, let’s make sure that they are challenged at next year’s election, and everyone of them are booted from Congress.


95 posted on 10/06/2019 8:35:43 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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96 posted on 10/07/2019 1:15:31 AM PDT by vikingrinn
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To: flamberge
"We aren't going to beat them with street demonstrations."

Agree and I don't think the October 17th effort is going to do much. What we need is millions of supporters surrounding the Capitol with torches and pitchforks to show what is going to happen to the Representatives and many others if they continue with their coup attempt. They think they can betray the country and live large. They need an education on what their lives will be like if the people rise up.

97 posted on 10/07/2019 4:20:07 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: flamberge
A Leftist demonstration would unveil their website with transportation captains already in place...

I have to back off on my earlier criticism. They do indeed have a well-organized transportation plan which appears now on their website.

They also have monitors to keep track of the participants and deal with any obnoxious behavior from participants or opponents.

Good job!

98 posted on 10/07/2019 8:10:41 AM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: kaehurowing

Not over Trump it wont. It will take more than this for the average American who is seeing full employment and more satisfaction with life to take up arms against the democrats and DC.


99 posted on 10/07/2019 11:43:55 AM PDT by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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To: conservative98

Do they really think it helps them to be publicly declaring that they, as the jury, will already vote guilty, before they even see any evidence?

DOesn’t that just prove to America that they don’t care about truth, that impeachment is a trial looking for a crime?


100 posted on 10/07/2019 12:22:47 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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