he Deep State: How it Came to Be and Why it Fights so Hard

Intellectual take out ^ | 9/1/19 | David Foley

[DeweyCA]

Good insights. Thank you for commenting. Lord Acton knew about the temptations of power on fallen men. The original sin was the desire to be our own gods. And the “elitists” definitely believe that they are entitled to rule over the rest of us, while enriching themselves.

[griffin]

Awesome article and commentary!

[Cboldt]

Chester Arthur - probably born in Canada

[DeweyCA]

FTA: "Now we see how the Deep State became so deeply entrenched in our government and why its members will fight against any threat to it. The members of the Deep State are fighting for not only their jobs and their power, but their very sense of being. What meaning do they have in life if they were shown that they are in fact dispensable, that they can be replaced or their positions or departments can be eliminated? In the end, their egos depend upon the maintenance and growth of personal power and prestige.

Understanding that the fight is not just about power and money, but self-identity and ego, goes a long way to seeing how ugly the battle between the American people and the Deep State over the government will become -- and how the battle has actually been raging for years."

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People, especially those who are unwilling to submit their egos to a sovereign God, must create their own meaning and significance in life. They must strut around pretending to be something that they are not. And if they were logical, then, according to their secular worldview, they would have to face the reality that all of their efforts will, in the end, amount to nothing, as the universe eventually attains a cold death. As Shakespeare, wrote in MacBeth: "This life, which had been the tomb of his virtue and of his honour, is but a walking shadow; a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

This article fits in well with "The Ruling Class" by Angelo Codevilla.

[Lurkinanloomin]

But nobody was able to prove it at the time.
Arthur went to extreme measures to obscure.
Romney’s attempt was blatant.

[Lurkinanloomin]

Well said.

In answer to your tag line, I’m afraid so.
We are not throwing out the weasels who got us here and have been thwarting President Trump.
We needed to give him a Congress that sides with the citizens and the rule of law.
He can’t do it alone.

[Jacquerie]

<>How about we try to come up with some implementable suggestions.<>

Our Framers provided the solution - Article V.

[GOPJ]

The reason the deep state's powerful AND incompetent is because DC is run by the incompetent children and grandchildren of people who got to DC based on merit.

When a loser son or daughter gets a position they don't deserve and couldn't earn - the first thing they do is attempt to secure the job - create ‘insurance policies’ to safeguard their sinecure.

It's why 90% of DC is concerned with covering their asses and having 'insurance policies'...

[Shane]

I am aware of Article V and have been working to get a Convention of the States. However much more effort is needed from ALL Patriots. There is simply too much yammering and not enough action. It is much easier to make a post on FR than for folks to get off of their duffs and DO SOMETHING.

[wastoute]

Eventually it’s going to come down to the Second Amendment. Our current government is incapable of dealing with the problems we have without even considering the “Deep State”. When you have a problem you can’t acknowledge, much less address it will be the end of you. When you have a country with multiple problems it cannot acknowledge you do not have a functioning country. We do have this brief reprieve during the Trump Presidency but that’s as far as it goes. Trump is the Last President. Then the deluge.

[Jacquerie]

Agree. It’s all politics all the time at FR, as if elections by themselves will turn the once great American republic around.

[Rocky]

Bookmark

[Farcesensitive]

We need to bring back the spoils system.

[DiogenesLamp]

he Deep State: How it Came to Be and Why it Fights so Hard

Hard to say when it began exactly, but a good choice of starting point would be the corruption introduced by the President from Illinois.

Corruption, influence, favor trading, and other forms of underhanded behavior were rampant during and after the Lincoln administration.

Lincoln set the example by using his office to do favors for people he wanted something from. He promised Seward (His number 1 primary opponent) a Job as his Secretary of State to help him secure the election. Lincoln handed out jobs and appointments as favors for anyone who would do something for him in exchange. He got the 13th amendment passed with bribes and threats as needed.

Lincoln conducted business the "Chicago Way." He was a lot like that other race obsessed liberal lawyer from Illinois who became President.

The US government became highly corrupt during and after Lincoln came to town, and it has exhibited the same sort of corruption ever since.

[DiogenesLamp]

It's funny that with a name like AndyJackson, you think this corrupt deep state started in the 1990s.

You should read up on Andrew Jackson's opinion of the money powers, and their "national bank."

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"After eight years as President I have only two regrets: that I have not shot Henry Clay or hanged John C. Calhoun."

Henry Clay was Lincoln's mentor, and instilled in him the economic policy of "mercantilism", which was basically funneling government money into private corporation hands.

John Calhoun was the primary advocate of Southern secession (to get away from the mercantilists who wanted their money to flow into Northern power brokers pockets) and Jackson was very much against secession.

"You are a den of vipers. I intend to rout you out and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning."

Jackson was very aware of the powerful money men who effectively ran a shadow government through influence.

From the earliest ages of history to the present day there never have been thirteen millions of people associated in one political body who enjoyed so much freedom and happiness as the people of these United States. You have no longer any cause to fear danger from abroad... It is from within, among yourselves - from cupidity, from corruption, from disappointed ambition and inordinate thirst for power.

Jackson knew the Hamiltonians were dangerous.

"I weep for the liberty of my country when I see at this early day of its successful experiment that corruption has been imputed to many members of the House of Representatives, and the rights of the people have been bartered for promises of office."

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I am one of those who do not believe that a national debt is a national blessing, but rather a curse to a republic; inasmuch as it is calculated to raise around the administration a moneyed aristocracy dangerous to the liberties of the country.

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"The mischief springs from the power which the monied interest derives from a paper currency which they are able to control, from the multitude of corporations with exclusive privileges which they have succeeded in obtaining, and unless you become more watchful in your states and check this spirit of monopoly and thirst for exclusive privileges you will in the end find that the most important powers of government have been given or bartered away."

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https://www.azquotes.com/author/19724-Andrew_Jackson

And one more.

"The bank...is trying to kill me, but I will kill it!"

[DiogenesLamp]

Romney’s father was the first attempt to undermine the natural born citizen clause, he was born in Mexico.

1916.

https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2013/10/29/is-mr-charles-evans-hughes-a-naturalborn-citizen-within-the-meaning-of-theconstitution-by-beckinridge-long-chicago-legal-news/

Actually even older.

http://natural-borncitizens.com/chesterarthurnotnaturalborn.html

[Baynative]

“Without a doubt, the Deep State must be confronted and defeated for the health of our nation. But how?”

The only thing I could see would be swift prosecutions and the carrying out of full sentences for all involved in the failed coup attempt and that would have to include conspirators in the media.

Sadly that will never happen, even with today's news of FBI agents being put on leave of absence right from day 1 so they could work within the Trump administration.

[dirtboy]

The Deep Staters usurped all kinds of powers, and with those powers it is extremely difficult to pull them back.

[a fool in paradise]

Communists and Globalists have been there since at least the 1930s (and HCUUA predates that).

FDR’s administration was filthy with Communists and Fascists.

McCarthy was called out for questioning the patriotism of Communists in the State Department and US Army. Now we’ve seen Communists at the top of the CIA and FBI and White House all during the same administration.

We are fucked.

[free_life]

You may be an ambassador
To England or France
You might like to gamble
You might like to dance
You may be the heavyweight
Champion of the world
You might be a socialite
With a long string of pearls

But you’re gonna have to serve somebody
Yes indeed, you’re gonna have to serve somebody
Well it may be the Devil
Or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody