Posted on 08/30/2019 4:03:49 PM PDT by xxqqzz
The families of two teenagers who were shot and killed after allegedly trespassing outside a home in Dayton, Ohio, are demanding accountability. The homeowner admitted he shot Javier Harrison and Devin Henderson on Wednesday. Police said the teens may have been involved in drug activity on the property.
Police are trying to determine whether this is a case of justifiable self-defense. Jimmy Harrison, Javier Harrison's father, said the unidentified homeowner knew his son, but police haven't confirmed that.
"I want answers," Jimmy Harrison said.
Harrison said he feels like the shooting was premeditated.
"It wasn't in your house, it was in the garage," Harrison said. "You seeing some perps out there at your garage, you know, so my first instinct is call the police. I feel like he took the law into his own hands."
The homeowner told police he saw a light in his garage Wednesday and found three people sitting inside a car. Police said he fired his revolver multiple times, killing the two teens. The third person ran away but returned when police arrived.
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They were tragically shot before they could publish their paper on the quantum drive they invented.
Oh, you saw the video? Did the three teens have their hands up? Please post a link to that here if you can! Thanks in advance!
Was it his car? Did he think they were going to steal it? Did the one who got away make the homeowner think they were headed toward him? Did they have the car in drive and headed at him? Still lots of questions.
Especially if the homeowner comes up on 3 people in the middle of a drug deal. There is fear of losing money, fear of going to jail, fear of being caught in an illegal act. All of these can mean that a lone man is vulnerable to attack from the three.
Even if one of them just gets out of the car, the lone man can interpret this as the beginning of an attack.
You summed it very well. Victim is in trouble if there was no weapon on the intruders. Maybe. Victim most likely will have a harder time. But it might take more work to be exonerated without being charged or taken to trial. I know of one case where unarmed criminal in break in was shot in the back, died. Case went to trial - deadlocked 8 - 4 in defendant’s favor. State chose not to retry. Better to be alive and charged than dead. Unless one has been in such a situation, one does not know what the heat of the moment will do to one’s thoughts and actions. Monday morning quarterbacking is easy.
...yes, pity you didn’t raise them correctly.
Thanks. Is that the case in every state?
As it turns out, I remember a case from a few years ago. A homeowner [Asian immigrant IIRC] noticed a young black male routing through his garage at night. Later, he noticed the kid doing it again and shot him dead.
The last I heard, the law was preparing to send it to trial - murder or manslaughter. I never heard what happened.
That he has, including the 011 operator. When on the phone with 911 never say more that what is absolutely necessary.
Here we go ... this may be it.
One kid. Homeowner gets 70 YEARS IN JAIL.
Good snark there. Unless there was a gun or some other overt threat the shooter is in big trouble.
You dont sound like a democrat
JIMBO
My God it’s coming right for us!!!
STAN
Hey! It wasn’t coming right for us!
It was just sitting there!
JIMBO
SHHH! Not so loud!! Now that there’s
just a technicality.
KYLE
What d’ya mean?
JIMBO
You see boys, the Democrats have
passed a lot of laws trying to stop
us from hunting.
CARTMAN
Democrats piss me off!
I think the victim is in more trouble because he spoke to the police without benefit of a lawyer.
Don’t talk to cops, talk to your lawyer and let him talk to the cops.
“Three kids sitting in a car in a detached garage does not get one there.”:
Might - if the teens started to get out. And since one of the three ran away, they obviously WERE getting out of the car.
Three teens at night ion my property? Are they a threat? Maybe not. Three coming toward me? Yep.
Need more facts.
“I want answers because they have always been there smoking weed in that garage or whatever you want to call it,”Jimmy Harrison said. “They always have been there, and they always hung there smoking weed in that garage.”
Ummm....bad idea, Mr “I don’t raise my kids” Harrison. I have a right to investigate things happening on my property. And if the teens - 17 years old so possibly bigger than the homeowner - do anything more than sit quietly...
Of course: “Jimmy Harrison said his son was getting his life together and, “his future was bright. But I feel like it (his life) was took before we could get it together.”
Need more facts, but I wouldn’t assume this was a bad shoot. Or a good one.
And whatever was stated on the 911 call.
I think I remember that.
It’s getting where you need a throwaway gun to defend your land.
I’m as gung ho as most, I have little sympathy for criminals, I have no qualms about shooting someone, but I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t have fired in this circumstance. I also don’t want to harm or kill anyone I don’t need to.
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