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Posted on 08/06/2019 12:44:56 AM PDT by FtrPilot

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To: FtrPilot

We’ll make it a chant instead of a song, so that it will be easier for non-singer participation.


21 posted on 08/06/2019 4:10:19 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: FtrPilot
-Those with a history of abusing alcohol or drugs.

That opens the door to confiscate from anybody whose ever had a DUI.


22 posted on 08/06/2019 6:06:38 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: FtrPilot
THIS is the area to address!!!!

What percentage of mass killers would we have missed using this additional data?

Of course stealing the weapons from parents or others aren't precluded by these additional constraints.

23 posted on 08/06/2019 6:34:37 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: FtrPilot

This quote struck me.
“The parts of the brain responsible for impulse control, judgement, and long-range planning are among the last areas of the brain to fully mature, and in fact, may continue to develop until at least age 26.”

Yet they are talking about lowering the voting age to 16...


24 posted on 08/06/2019 6:52:01 AM PDT by hanamizu
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Noticed they didn’t include doctors as a new survey says they commit Suicide at high rates. https://www.painmedicinenews.com/Online-First/Article/07-19/Physician-Suicide-Statistics-Spark-Discussion-Of-Culture-That-Stigmatizes-Mental-Illness/55551?sub=11B22924EF6783FCEB2C8D2FC673DC5A5825E15F92FB318F546528377A7B24A&enl=true&dgid&utm_source=enl&utm_content=1&utm_campaign=20190805&utm_medium=title&fbclid=IwAR0I9Yc1iVdKkF0BKHOhlmzWuqL1ym2ln1tqO4Lqk1yoc3bNOmBj6VKBSWE


25 posted on 08/06/2019 7:14:57 AM PDT by GailA (Intractable pain, AKA as Intractable Pain Disease Medical Disease 24/7/365 pain for decades.)
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To: FtrPilot

By there standards Any one with PSTD would be pre-cluded. As I suspect the parents of a Murdered Child would be. I fit both, the PSTD is my child’s Murder. Do I admit to it to medical NO. Simple I control it, it does not control me.


26 posted on 08/06/2019 7:18:46 AM PDT by GailA (Intractable pain, AKA as Intractable Pain Disease Medical Disease 24/7/365 pain for decades.)
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To: monkeyshine

“background checks” ...... I want somebody to show me where in the Constitution it says that you have to ask permission from the federal govt. to arm yourself. That is what a “background check” is. Asking permission. In fact the 2nd Amendment says exactly the opposite. What part of “Shall not be infringed” do they not understand? Gun control is not about guns. It is about control. The only reason they want a disarmed population, is because they want to do things that they know damned well that a well-armed citizenry would never allow.


27 posted on 08/06/2019 7:23:07 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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They first have to figure out a all-in-one database that each and every Federal, state, and local law enforcement agency must use, which I think is how think these type of people are getting access to weapons. Think of the rollout and cost of the Obamacare website debacle.

Then there’s the cooking of the statistics book to make crime rates appears to be less than actually are for political reasons across the spectrum.


28 posted on 08/06/2019 7:30:08 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: G Larry
I agree...the recommendations by the Giffords Law Center are not what I would agree to. However, I could support a kid that gets suspended or expelled from school could go on the list until they reach a certain age, perhaps 24 or 25. Same would apply for any kid found guilty of a violent crime in the juvenile justice system.

I would also like the list to be updated as law, passed by Congress and Signed by the President. Not updated by BATF as a policy or a rule.

29 posted on 08/06/2019 7:52:09 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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I would like to add to my previous post that:

Red Flag laws are not the answer.

I hope that President Trump understands that.

30 posted on 08/06/2019 7:55:08 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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No free man should (shall) ever be debarred the use of arms.

So said Jefferson. Anyone who cannot be trusted to be armed should not be running around loose.


31 posted on 08/06/2019 11:05:01 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: birdsman
If a homo cant buy a firearm for this reason do the leftists fight for “his” 2nd amendment rights?

Homosexuals are mentally ill, so they shouldn't be armed anyway. But if they're not locked away, they should retain the right- free men.

32 posted on 08/06/2019 11:07:36 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: shooter223

I believe the Federal Courts have ruled it legal, and large majorities of people agree with it. That said, I agree with you and I am more of an absolutist on this question. But check your logic because this could mean you are saying that even “prohibited people” should not be prohibited. Where does it say that a criminal loses his/her right to self defense?

With this push to restore (voting) rights to criminals, why one and not the other?


33 posted on 08/06/2019 11:59:10 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine

I have always believed that when a convicted criminal completes his sentence (including parole, probation, fines, costs,etc.) ALL Constitutional rights should be restored.


34 posted on 08/07/2019 5:25:14 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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